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Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Post by dang »

papichulo4 wrote: post #182

We need politics out of here. Maybe make the line between HN and the rest of news a bit more clear.

HN's approach to political stories has been stable for many years: most are off-topic, but some are ok; but only some.

'Stable' here means stable over time. The proportion of political stories goes through pretty big fluctuations (mostly in response to macro social events, e.g. elections), but HN's principles remain the same, and the swings eventually subside*.

If you (or anyone) want to read about what those principles are, I've posted about that many times. Here's one pointer into those explanations: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

* perhaps ironically, this 'stability' includes the phenomenon of users complaining that HN is turning too much into a political site. For a glimpse into how far back that goes, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

Jtsummers wrote: post #328
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard disagree with this take. There is certainly a purpose responding to them. Whether or not their opinion is changed comes down to them.

If the individual is living in a fantasy land, then any responses here will be discarded by them as fantasy themselves. Someone who legitimately believes that Musk is fighting corruption when Musk is also directing contracts to his own businesses is in a fantasy land. If the individual is trolling, which could be the case here, then responding is just feeding the troll. It encourages them. The better thing in both ca…

It does not seem like we disagree.

> At most, respond to the comment, but not the individual, with facts

There is still a purpose for the response. It may not be for a particular reader, but there are other readers. It would be worth it to flag and move on if there is nothing to engage with but that’s not the case here.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Post by maxlin »

latexr wrote: post #55
maxlin wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it is a pending note. Which often already are extremely relevant. Many see these as prominently as other CN's as becoming a "Community Noter" is not too hard. >And it’s not like Community Notes will remain reliable. That's as useless like saying your house might burn down in the next hour so might as well not go inside during a storm. CN's are the best weapon we have against misinformation given they require…

No, it’s not like that in the slightest. Read the link, my comments was within its context, not made in a vaccumm. The point is precisely that one person , the owner of the platform, wants to change Community Notes to agree with his own opinions and world view.

You clearly do not understand how Community Notes work given you're talking of "how one person wants to change them".

Good thing is that no single person can change them. Their data and source code is open. So your point is nothing but some anti-Elon propaganda basically.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Post by ben_w »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #236
EasyMark wrote: post #133

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All you have to do is look at how Trump is treating Zelenskyy and praising Putin to know that he's in Putin's hip pocket, either out of stupidity or is an actual asset that they have компромат on

> how Trump is treating Zelenskyy and praising Putin to know that he's in Putin's hip pocket Ukraine has been my pet war for the last few years. I have to disagree. Trump doesn’t particularly care what happens to Ukraine. He needs the dollars we’re sending to Europe to finance his tax cut and trade war. I’m less convinced Trump is acting at Putin’s direction than that he’s looking for the nearest guy to offload the p…

I would be more willing to believe that if not for the first-order result of the current administration's aims being a 6% GDP loss from kicking out illegal immigrants and another 6% loss from what Musk says he's aiming for with DOGE, plus another 1% GDP loss from the tariffs.

That said, I am willing to believe Trump wants to use Musk to cut whatever he can actually cut, and then throw him under a bus for the political fallout of those cuts. That plus Musk's habit of making maximal promises and delivering "merely" impressive results, means I think DOGE will actually cut a lot less than $2T — I don't see how even "just" $200bn would be anything less than a major geopolitical shift felt well outside the US, that breaks something so hard that Trump will want a fall-guy. Same for the illegal immigrants: kicking them out may be a vote winner, but they're too important, so I expect perhaps 10% of them to actually be removed.

But that still produces a 2.2% GDP contraction. Ukraine aid won't come close to covering that.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Post by marxisttemp »

KerrAvon wrote: post #284
InTheArena wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The OP is not. He’s calling someone working on a project, posting his code to GitHub names. The correct response in a democratic society to people attacking political enemies as enemies of the state, spreading untruths, attacking the rule of law, and acting like assholes is _to not do these these things_.

I’m really baffled by this take. How are you not understanding the basic fact that these are criminals actively performing a coup to destroy the “democratic society”, not political opponents?

We must be polite to them as they spit in our faces UwU

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Post by ibejoeb »

KolmogorovComp wrote: post #213

Can someone be more specific about what's potentially illegal on these screenshots?

I don't the author of the tweet, but I don't know how he's arrived at the conclusion that there's some smoking gun. A datavis script? And, I mean, really, a tweet downloader?

It's not like he made a gee you eye in VB or something...

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Post by asveikau »

ibejoeb wrote: post #337
asveikau wrote: post #208

If you think that's bad, in one of those screenshots, he is using HTML tables.

They're underrated if you're doing reporting.

My comment was tongue in cheek. I'm not a web focused guy and I learned HTML long enough ago that I have no specific moral objection to tables. I used them in a quick personal project a few months ago.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Post by dang »

rayiner wrote: post #109
DrNosferatu wrote: post #104

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Anti-interventionist Democrats criticized military spending but never advocated abandoning treaty obligations that maintained global stability since WWII. (or you would prefer that the US hadn’t even joined the Allies in WWII?) There's a profound difference between questioning military budgets and actively undermining alliances while praising dictators. Your characterization whitewashes the specific nature of Trump's…

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> For god's sake read another book.

> you're beyond helping

Please don't get on the wrong side of the guidelines like this. I realize these are high-energy topics but this is important.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

lesuorac wrote: post #175
analog31 wrote: post #116

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Afghanistan has that. Instead of landlords, they have warlords, just a different term for the same thing. Why is anybody interested in repeating that thing? I've been told that billionaires think differently than the rest of us, but I still can't fathom why someone would want to be the king of a shit hole when they could be richer as a regular citizen of a liberal democracy. Why do they hate our success?

Is life really that much better for billionaires of today than kings of last millennium? Sure you can acquire a private fleet of jets and cars now. But given that you rarely if-ever drive them it's no different than a fleet of rare animals. Sure you can play video games and watch sports on TV but is that really much better than watching sports from a private suite? I will conceded that their life expectancy has basic…

In fact things are worse for them today. In Versai it was the norm for the king to take a dump in a bucket in front of the whole court. Today's billionaires have to pay people to watch them do it and have to keep it hush hush.
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