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Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox

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Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox

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The Puritans have been trying to ban porn here since the concept has existed, it's never stopped, and it's never going to stop. They're miserable and they want everyone else to be too. That's like most of their religion. Going to church, being ashamed of bodies, and judging people.

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So because you did X and had a problem, it means it should be banned for everyone, including people whp dont have a problem with X?

Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox

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LibreWolf? It's Firefox without the Mozilla branding

Any recommendations for an Android Firefox replacement?

I am using IronFox (on GrapheneOS). But I don't really use my phone for browsing the internet very often.

Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox

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Title is a complete lie/misleading. They get a license, not ownership. Let's dissect what it actually says, and we do it backwards, because given the discussion around this subject it seems like people space out or have their mind clouded by outrage before they get to the end of the sentence: > help you [do things] as you indicate with your use of Firefox. So this already only covers things that you indicate you want…

In EU user can not legally give up ownership of their personal data, artwork, or intelectual property. "Giving license" is a legal workaround to get ownership.

Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox

#334

Title is a complete lie/misleading. They get a license, not ownership. Let's dissect what it actually says, and we do it backwards, because given the discussion around this subject it seems like people space out or have their mind clouded by outrage before they get to the end of the sentence: > help you [do things] as you indicate with your use of Firefox. So this already only covers things that you indicate you want…

My ISP doesn't need a license to everything I do online to facilitate the transfer of bits from my home to the wider internet, so why should Mozilla need that? How about the transit providers, they certainly don't have a license to anything I do.

Assuming that everything is HTTPS, what are they actually licencing? My encrypted data?

This is some Mozilla legally idiot that went WAY to far in a "cover our ass" legal document and nobody stopped to think about the potential damage this would to the Mozilla and Firefox reputation, which already isn't doing so well. They didn't even stop to think if MAYBE this needed some clarification, to avoid unwarranted speculations. It's getting increasingly clear that the people running Mozilla has absolutely no idea what they are doing, nor do they have any respect for the project they've are in charge of. At this point I wouldn't be surprise to learn that the Mozilla CEO uses Edge.

Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox

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Try going to gitlab.com with librewolf, you'll see a white page with no content. Librewolf is blocked off from half the internet that uses cloudflare, so it's kind of a useless browser. Every browser that's not a majority browser will be associated with these kind of blocking risk. I can't risk access to my financially important accounts, nobody can. So to me this is not a feasible alternative. The only way to build…

This is purely FUD per my experience. I use librewolf on websites behind cloudflare and with plenty of js. They all work just as well as they did in Firefox. Librewolf sends Firefox in the user agent, and you can toggle Firefox "features" on if a website you use requires them. Not trying to convince you to switch to it--you do you. Just sharing with someone who might be reading this thread and that hasn't tried libre…

The amount of re-edits of your comment are a bit off the charts.

Why do you think I have a personal stake in this? Why do you feel personally attacked by my comment?

I am sorry if I somehow personally offended you!? Not sure how I could've phrased my comment differently.

Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox

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This made me look into Firefox forks/alternatives: Librewolf [1] seems to be fairly active (last commit on Codeberg was last week) and up-to-date with the latest upstream releases (mirrors FF's versioning scheme and matches their latest). Has a nice focus on privacy and no-telemetry. Floorp [2] also looks active (last commit last week), also claims focus on privacy. Based off FF's extended support releases so it may…

Try going to gitlab.com with librewolf, you'll see a white page with no content. Librewolf is blocked off from half the internet that uses cloudflare, so it's kind of a useless browser. Every browser that's not a majority browser will be associated with these kind of blocking risk. I can't risk access to my financially important accounts, nobody can. So to me this is not a feasible alternative. The only way to build…

> Try going to gitlab.com with librewolf, you'll see a white page with no content.

> If you want a headstart, I tried forking webkit and do exactly this

> [1] https://github.com/tholian-network/retrokit

I just opened that page on LibreWolf without any problems.

Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox

#338

Title is a complete lie/misleading. They get a license, not ownership. Let's dissect what it actually says, and we do it backwards, because given the discussion around this subject it seems like people space out or have their mind clouded by outrage before they get to the end of the sentence: > help you [do things] as you indicate with your use of Firefox. So this already only covers things that you indicate you want…

I think everyone is unsettled about the fact that Mozilla was able "to help you ... as you indicate" for twenty years before today without the need of a license agreement. And so we ask: what's changed?

Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox

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This is purely FUD per my experience. I use librewolf on websites behind cloudflare and with plenty of js. They all work just as well as they did in Firefox. Librewolf sends Firefox in the user agent, and you can toggle Firefox "features" on if a website you use requires them. Not trying to convince you to switch to it--you do you. Just sharing with someone who might be reading this thread and that hasn't tried libre…

The amount of re-edits of your comment are a bit off the charts. Why do you think I have a personal stake in this? Why do you feel personally attacked by my comment? I am sorry if I somehow personally offended you!? Not sure how I could've phrased my comment differently.

Yeah, I thought it was unnecessarily confrontational and tried to make it clear that's not my intent.

I'm not offended in the slightest, just a very happy user who wants to encourage other people to try librewolf for themselves.

Re: Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox

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post #232

This made me look into Firefox forks/alternatives: Librewolf [1] seems to be fairly active (last commit on Codeberg was last week) and up-to-date with the latest upstream releases (mirrors FF's versioning scheme and matches their latest). Has a nice focus on privacy and no-telemetry. Floorp [2] also looks active (last commit last week), also claims focus on privacy. Based off FF's extended support releases so it may…

Try going to gitlab.com with librewolf, you'll see a white page with no content. Librewolf is blocked off from half the internet that uses cloudflare, so it's kind of a useless browser. Every browser that's not a majority browser will be associated with these kind of blocking risk. I can't risk access to my financially important accounts, nobody can. So to me this is not a feasible alternative. The only way to build…

> gitlab.com with librewolf, you'll see a white page with no content

It works fine, even with JS disabled.

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