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Re: Microsoft cancels leases for AI data centers, analyst says

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If you have to tell others that then perhaps some introspection for yourself might be helpful. Comes across more as denial than constructive commentary. I do believe the benefit decreases the more senior or familiar the work is but there is still a noticeable benefit and I think it largely depends on the velocity and life cycle of the product. I think you get less benefit the slower the velocity or the more mature of…

Again, show your evidence. You make a polite but still ad hominem "attack" about me instead of addressing my points with demonstrations of evidence. Make a video or blog article actually showing how your use of LLMs in coding is making you more productive. Show what it's doing to help you that has a multiplier effect on your productivity.

Oh I see, I had replied to your comment directly where I was stating that I find it surprising that folks like yourself are so quick to attack, though looking at your response here its not that surprising.

I don't think it deserves a video or blog, like I already said the multiple posts that have made HN front page have covered it well. - Autocomplete saves me keystrokes usually - Features like Cursor's composer/agent allow me to outsource junior level changes to the code base. I can copy/paste my requirements and it gives me the diffs of the changes when its done. Its often at a junior level or better and tackles multi-file changes. I usually kick this off and go make other changes to the code base.

Now like I have said before, this depends a lot on the velocity of the team and the maturity of the code base. I think more mature products you will have less benefit on feature implementation and most likely more opportunity in the test writing capabilities. Likewise, teams with a slower cadence, thinking a bluechip software company compared to a startup, are not going to get as much benefit either.

Instead of being so aggressive, simply say why it does not work for you. These tools strive in web dev which you may not be involved in!

Re: Microsoft cancels leases for AI data centers, analyst says

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good shoes help me walk a bit faster, and for longer. they don't let me walk at the pace of a SUV. AI is like the good shoes. they help, and make many tasks a bit easier. but they can't make me into an SUV. and if they can, then no programmers will have jobs. which is the end-state of this whole LLM thing as far as I can tell.

I have a good shoes business. Can you give me a couple of 100 billions of dollars? Good news I promise you trillions, in a year or two or 10 maybe, who knows you can exprapolate into a future science fiction reality yourself. So when are you transfering the money?

You are now moving the goal post from us discussing is this adding value to how much is it worth. There are a lot of open debate to some of the level of investment but from the hyperscaler territory, they are flush with cash and it probably hurts more under invest and be wrong than it is to over invest.

Re: Microsoft cancels leases for AI data centers, analyst says

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Exactly, and they did it while no one at Microsoft was looking at them.

That's not what I see from the outside Everytime versioning comes up. My understanding is Microsoft marketing has full control over what constitutes a major / minor version bump like when typescript 4 is released vs typescript 3.9 (just an example). The people who build typescript don't even control their own version numbers.

According to this https://www.learningtypescript.com/articles/why-typescript-d...

The versioning logic is fairly simple (although kind of pointless afaict?). X.1 —> X.9, and instead of going to .10 it simply increments major number. With average releases every 3 months, then major versions are simply being bumped roughly every 30 months.

I think functionally it’s just a really awkward date-versioning on a 30 month calendar instead of 12

Re: Microsoft cancels leases for AI data centers, analyst says

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These pages are somewhat out of date, but they confirm what I said: "Ancient Egypt was a peasant-based economy and it was not until the Greco-Roman period that slavery had a greater impact."

no - by not specifying which Kingdom you were referring to, it revealed an incomplete, obstinate, reactive answer.. (as I have also done many times) So my remedy to that today was to read a bit before further damage is done. Non-English pages might also be useful on this massive and historical topic

Was the incomplete, obstinate, reactive answer in this case yours or mine?

Re: Microsoft cancels leases for AI data centers, analyst says

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no - by not specifying which Kingdom you were referring to, it revealed an incomplete, obstinate, reactive answer.. (as I have also done many times) So my remedy to that today was to read a bit before further damage is done. Non-English pages might also be useful on this massive and historical topic

Was the incomplete, obstinate, reactive answer in this case yours or mine?

the original comment was "Memphis the name, is so applicable here, due to slavery and imperial powers" .. I'll stay with that

Re: Microsoft cancels leases for AI data centers, analyst says

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IMHO anyone who started using AI seriously: 1) Wouldn't want to go back 2) Wouldn't believe that it's about to replace human intellectual work In other words AI got advanced enough to do amazing things but not 500B or T level of amazing and people with the money are not convinced that it will be anytime soon.

I went back. It’s fine at solving small problems and jump-starting an investigation, but only a small step better than a search engine. It’s no good for deep work. Any time I’ve used it to research something I know well, it’s got important details wrong, but in a confident way that someone without my knowledge would accept. RLHF trains it to fool humans into thinking it’s authoritative, not to actually be correct.

I use it to get the keywords and ideas, then use the normal search engine to get the facts. Still, even in this limited capacity I find the LLMs very useful.

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Plenty of housing. The problem is, people want cheap housing in places where everyone wants to live. I don't think that will happen any time soon.

This is a non-sense that spreads because of North American style of housing. If you're talking about sprawling suburban houses then you're right. But big cities have provided reasonable housing for lots of workers for centuries. The only thing you need is to build more apartments in the cities that have an excess of job positions.

There is basically no large city outside of subsaharan African & maybe the subcontinent that has that development style and anything even approaching a sustainable 2.1 total fertility rate

Re: Microsoft cancels leases for AI data centers, analyst says

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You think they would spend 500B without thinking there will be any demand?

You're missing the key phrase. "Says it will". Companies, of course, say all sorts of things. Sometimes, those things come to pass. But not really all that often.

Apply said the same thing the last two election cycles. They seem to be eternally indicating they're investing multiple hundreds of billions in the US. What they actually followed through on, is what I want to know.

Re: Microsoft cancels leases for AI data centers, analyst says

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I went back. It’s fine at solving small problems and jump-starting an investigation, but only a small step better than a search engine. It’s no good for deep work. Any time I’ve used it to research something I know well, it’s got important details wrong, but in a confident way that someone without my knowledge would accept. RLHF trains it to fool humans into thinking it’s authoritative, not to actually be correct.

I use it to get the keywords and ideas, then use the normal search engine to get the facts. Still, even in this limited capacity I find the LLMs very useful.

That’s similar to how I use it. Useful, but not game changing. Definitely not at the level of the hype.

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> Apple level of polish - I can't tell if my macbook is charging or not while the lid is closed. There is no light indicator - minimize/maximize buttons are very small given that I am using a the touchpad. I am not saying they are unsuably small but far from ideal. - If I fully deplete the battery. I cannot immediatly turn it on with adapter's power. Why? Every windows laptop can be run with adapter even with a dead…

> If I fully deplete the battery. I cannot immediatly turn it on with adapter's power. Why? Every windows laptop can be run with adapter even with a dead battery. First you should not be depleting modern batteries, its not good for the battery health, or indeed storage health, recall that solid-state storage integrity is not guaranteed in the absence of electrical current (a reminder to those who have a habit of back…

I'm sure people running out of batteries in the middle of a zoom call or a presentation especially enjoy waiting an additional 5-10 minutes before being able to continue.
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