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Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by eastbound »

hackyhacky wrote: post #316
SeptiumMMX wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, fact-checking works if it's done impartially. So, if you want to fairly fact-check a political debate, each side should have their own team of researchers/fact-checkers being equally able to object to an argument made by the opposing party. Due process, sort of, kind of. But I don't think I've ever seen that done actually. Usually, fact checkers are akin to Reddit moderators. Technically independent, but with o…

The Trumpian opposition to fact checkers is not based on some principled disagreement of substance. Trump, and by extension Republicans, oppose fact checking because the facts are in contradiction to their goals. Trump himself exists in some post-modern environment where "facts" aren't real and all that matters is spin. He wants what he says to go unquestioned. That's why instead of having a debate about facts, suppo…

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Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by Facemelters »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #322
aredox wrote: post #285

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> Trump just pardoned the violent attackers of Jan6 He let violent criminals out of jail. Unsurprisingly, they’re going on to commit crime. It’s wild how similarly the far left and right act when they’re given power; in an alternate universe, Chesa Boudin is pardoning them because abolish prisons or whatever.

crime went up after they removed chesa, mr. fact check

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by [deleted] »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #322
aredox wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Trump just pardoned the violent attackers of Jan6 He let violent criminals out of jail. Unsurprisingly, they’re going on to commit crime. It’s wild how similarly the far left and right act when they’re given power; in an alternate universe, Chesa Boudin is pardoning them because abolish prisons or whatever.

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Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by unethical_ban »

honestSysAdmin wrote: post #334
unethical_ban wrote: post #314

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You intentionally dodged the question.

Edit: For reference, the above user edited their comment to include a question that was not present prior, then suggested I was ignoring their prompt.

They are acting in bad faith.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by ourmandave »

eastbound wrote: post #331
hackyhacky wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Trumpian opposition to fact checkers is not based on some principled disagreement of substance. Trump, and by extension Republicans, oppose fact checking because the facts are in contradiction to their goals. Trump himself exists in some post-modern environment where "facts" aren't real and all that matters is spin. He wants what he says to go unquestioned. That's why instead of having a debate about facts, suppo…

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Really? Greenpeace says it's because X platforms conspiracy theorists and climate change skeptics. [1]

“But this tool, initially perceived as a new arena for free speech, has become a serious danger to it and to the respect for personal dignity,” point out organizations such as Cimade, France Nature Environment, Greenpeace France, and APF France Handicap in an op-ed published in Le Monde.

Their primary concerns include “the lack of moderation and the configuration of algorithms” which “encourage the spread of hateful content and the circulation of conspiracy and climate skeptic theories.”

[1] https://glassalmanac.com/87-french-groups-including-emmaus-g...

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by DangitBobby »

libertarian1 wrote: post #233
bongodongobob wrote: post #55

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The US is undergoing a fascist takeover basically.

Lmao. Nope. US is reclaiming the common sense

I won't argue about immigration here because I don't want to get mired in that shit, but what is common sense about denying the existence of climate change and attempting to destroy/reverse our progress as a nation against it, and further engaging in activities to make it worse rather than alleviate it?

What is common sense about sewing chaos in the federal government, inhibiting it's ability to function? In removing datasets that help us keep track of how effective our actions are?

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by hackyhacky »

eastbound wrote: post #331
hackyhacky wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Trumpian opposition to fact checkers is not based on some principled disagreement of substance. Trump, and by extension Republicans, oppose fact checking because the facts are in contradiction to their goals. Trump himself exists in some post-modern environment where "facts" aren't real and all that matters is spin. He wants what he says to go unquestioned. That's why instead of having a debate about facts, suppo…

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> Trump and the Republicans are very much in favor of checking facts. It is the opposite of censorship: Expose everything.

You know that you're writing this in a post about how the current Republican administration has been scrubbing massive amounts of scientific data from government websites, right?

I don't see how Greenpeace is at all relevant here.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by zikduruqe »

diggan wrote: post #23
paulyy_y wrote: post #13

What's more depressing is this was completely predictable, totally avoidable, but half the country welcomed this wave of oppression with open arms.

> but half the country welcomed this wave of oppression with open arms. And the other half? They seem to welcome this as well, but with crossed arms. Where are the protests? Seems most people end up writing upset messages on Twitter/Bluesky, but also seems there are no grassroots movements to actually protest the borderline coup that is happening?

> Where are the protests?

It is quickly being organized for 2/5/2025 at each state capital.

https://www.reddit.com/r/50501/

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