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Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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Post by lkramer »

BeFlatXIII wrote: post #320
k1kingy wrote: post #41

My FB timeline is already a complete mess with most irrelevant garbage as it stands. Not exactly sure what adding additional 'noise' is going to achieve outside of boosting numbers (which I guess is what they want). A current snapshot my feed: - Group post (from one I follow) - Ad - Post (from company I don't follow) - Group post (from Group I don't follow) - Group post (from one I follow) - Ad - Group post (from Gro…

> it was about 9 more posts before I saw a post from a person I actually know. At least for me, it's because the people I care about have long ago stopped posting, and those who are useful to keep as friends post garbage, so they've long ago been muted. I wish there were more posts from groups I follow instead of nonsense from groups they recommend.

It has become taboo to say we don't have any more content for you.

I was searching for tech jobs in Copenhagen in my fairly (but not overly) specialised field that is not overly common here on LinkedIn.

After 4-5 results that was relevant to what I was looking for it had obviously exhausted the available options, however rather than admit defeat it started showing me truly bizarre results, including unskilled student jobs in supermarkets and jobs as cleaners.

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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Post by exe34 »

entropicdrifter wrote: post #302
exe34 wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

honestly if addiction was the only impediment, I wouldn't care. it's just that I don't care enough anymore.

You sound deeply depressed, you know that right?

yes, it's an active choice :-)

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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Post by [deleted] »

EcommerceFlow wrote: post #93

This gave me a funny idea for a new social media app... One that's centered around "you" and filled with thousands/millions of LLM bots praising you, treating you like a celebrity, etc. Each of your posts will get tens of thousands of "likes", hundreds of comments, etc. Dm's straight to your feed, people wanting you, etc etc. If the newsfeed is already mostly "the algorithm", might as well take it to the extreme. I b…

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Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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Post by mrguyorama »

RajT88 wrote: post #288
Atotalnoob wrote: post #273

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I would presume the fishing and car groups are male heavy, and those men who have similar likes as you, like the booby photos. They are profiling your likes.

Plausible - sort of. I have never 'liked' a booby photo, and it's true probably lots of those guys have. FWIW, booby photos are verboten in those groups/group chats. The owners try hard to keep things topically relevant.

What matters is that the other guys in the group who like cars and fishing also with high probability engage with boob posts.

All this recommendation algorithm horseshit is just showing you the exact same stuff that trended with the least common denominator that you also are part of, no matter how much YOU PERSONALLY do not engage with it.

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Post by p2detar »

EcommerceFlow wrote: post #93

This gave me a funny idea for a new social media app... One that's centered around "you" and filled with thousands/millions of LLM bots praising you, treating you like a celebrity, etc. Each of your posts will get tens of thousands of "likes", hundreds of comments, etc. Dm's straight to your feed, people wanting you, etc etc. If the newsfeed is already mostly "the algorithm", might as well take it to the extreme. I b…

A German guy did something similar with the "Parallel Live Simulator" app [0] and got free stuff from shops by pretending to be an influencer. [1]

It was funny, sad and scary at the same time.

0 - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigbrain.p...

1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9otwVwVCxSc

edit: typos

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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Post by r00fus »

alex1138 wrote: post #11

Hey here's a novel idea Have social media websites be reverse chronological posts by friends/pages you follow instead of what AI thinks you're interested in (and yet somehow not explicitly following, yet you get it in your feed anyway)

Just move to Bluesky or Mastodon.

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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Post by paganel »

FredPret wrote: post #286
paganel wrote: post #208

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Yes, it’s in its BlackBerry 2005-2006 moment (optimistically), more like its 2008 moment (realistically). There was still lots of money coming in for both BB and Nokia around 2005-2006, too much money, for that matter, which eventually made them collapse. Ask yourself this, who do you see still using Facebook (the app) in 5-10 years’ time? But, then again, lots of people here which have a direct stake in Meta, either…

Look, every company goes through a lifecycle; tech companies go through them faster. But I’m in my mid 30’s and will probably use Facebook (very casually) for life. I’ve bought multiple products from their ads; they’ve got my profile zero’ed in, and that suits me perfectly. Every week I go on it for 5 minutes, see my friends’ baby pictures and a handful of products that are perfect for me. That’s much better than mos…

> see my friends’ baby pictures and

That's the thing, your "friends’ baby pictures" still being posted to FB is an US insularity thing, we used to do the same here in Eastern Europe until, I can't tell, 5 to 7 years ago but at some point that sharing of family photos on FB has just stopped.

As with other things internet related (see WhatsApp about 7-8 years ago, TikTok now), the US still seems to live in the past and isn't up to date with the newest stuff. As per WhatsApp, Facebook (the company) was lucky enough to be able to buy it back in the day (and, even then, lots of US users on this forum had never heard of it, which goes to show that insularity that I've mentioned), but with TikTok they don't have that option available for them anymore.

It has been mentioned here in the past several times, but many US-based people on this forum should take a step back, look at the outside world, and realise that, in many respects, they've been out-manoeuvred by said outside world when it comes to the internet. And I'm not talking about places like China, which is head and shoulders above the US when it comes to all things digital, but I'd be willing to bet that nowadays many people in Subsaharan Africa (several orders of magnitude poorer than the US) carry out more of their day to day tasks via their mobile phones and the internet compared to the people in the US.

What big US tech companies got going for them is a captive market (I don't think that the powers that be in DC will let any new TikTok-like non-American company to happen again) and, more importantly, lots and lots of money, both in their coffers/investors' pockets and, just as important, in their clients' pockets. But they don't have the edge anymore when it comes to innovation and to being relevant to people's lives (again, outside the US and some related markets).

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Post by nradov »

mrweasel wrote: post #125
nradov wrote: post #84

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Most users don't want reverse chronological feeds. They say they do but they really don't, and fail to appreciate how that would actually work. First, that would incentivize posting more low-value crap just to stay on the top of everyone else's feed. Second, if you don't log on for a while you're likely to miss some major life events (birth, death, marriage, divorce, move, new job) that people most want to see.

> They say they do but they really don't, Probably depends on your usage pattern. I think most would prefer it, but "engagement" measurements will make it seem like they hate it, because they spend less time on the page. If companies like Facebook actually wanted to know, they'd make the setting "sticky" rather than constantly reset to algorithmic, then measure over 3 - 12 months how many switches to either one and s…

Nah. It's mostly just the HN bubble that claims to want a chronological feed. The casual users are actually the ones who most prefer the algorithm so that they see posts about major life events at the top even when they haven't logged in for a while.

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Post by reaperducer »

nick__m wrote: post #282
reaperducer wrote: post #153

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That sounds really complicated compared to just opening a web page. It's actually less complicated than using a web page because you just start the SMS/iMessage program, and it's there ready to go. With a browser you have to start the browser and then tell it to go to Facebook. Then open the messaging portion of Facebook. Three times a many steps. Besides, my computer doesn't even have a Bluetooth connection. That's…

That's interesting to me. I didn't think any computer made in the last 20 years didn't have Bluetooth. What kind is it? When you assemble your own computer wifi and Bluetooth are still completely optional.

He's too lazy to write an email. He's probably too lazy to build a computer.

Unless building your own computer is like LEGO now. It's been a few years since I've needed to do it.

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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Post by cyanydeez »

EcommerceFlow wrote: post #93

This gave me a funny idea for a new social media app... One that's centered around "you" and filled with thousands/millions of LLM bots praising you, treating you like a celebrity, etc. Each of your posts will get tens of thousands of "likes", hundreds of comments, etc. Dm's straight to your feed, people wanting you, etc etc. If the newsfeed is already mostly "the algorithm", might as well take it to the extreme. I b…

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