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Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by kc_sourcegraph »

joshstrange wrote: post #327
kc_sourcegraph wrote: post #324

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Hey, product manager from sourcegraph here. Sorry to hear you got errors. What were the errors, and where were you using Cody (VS Code, Web, or JetBrains)?

JetBrains IDEA. Here is at least one of the errors I got: https://github.com/sourcegraph/jetbrains/issues/1306

Gotcha. Our JetBrains IDE has improved a lot since then, we've been focusing a ton on making performance better. If you could, would love to get you trying Cody again! I can even throw in 1 month free for you, I think I see your customer profile in Stripe :)

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by CamperBob2 »

dmitrygr wrote: post #303
CharlieDigital wrote: post #254

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The whole thing is literally stapled together right now -- and he knows it, but he's got paying users and validated the problem. If he's at it for a year, it won't matter: it means he'll be making money and can either try to get funded or may be generating enough revenue to rebuild it.

Hiring people to maintain AI-generated dross is not easy. Try it.

Sounds like a job for... AI.

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Post by cynicalpeace »

adventured wrote: post #90
jcfrei wrote: post #39

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When they are focusing on just being an API provider then they will be in a market with (long term) razor thin margins and high competition - most likely unable to build a deep moat. But if you can shape customers habits to always input "chatgpt.com" into the browser whenever they want to use AI then that's a very powerful moat. Those customers will also most likely be on a subscription basis, meaning much more flexi…

The difference between Google had it just tried to be an enterprise search API, versus owning the consumer destination for search input/results.

Google will be a remembered as a victim of Schumpeter's Creative Destruction

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Post by stavros »

ben_w wrote: post #299
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #83

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The most amazing thing with notebooklm is that is can turn your docs into a very high quality podcast of two people discussing the content of your docs.

Juggling dog. It's not very good, but it's amazing that it's possible at all. https://github.com/BenWheatley/Timeline-of-the-near-future I've only used the "Deep Dive" generator a few times, and I'm already sensing the audio equivalent of "youtube face" in the style — not saying that's inherently bad, but this is definitely early days for this kind of tool, so consider Deep Dive as it is today to be a GPT-2 demo of t…

Do you have a reference for the "Juggling dog" thing? I've heard it with "singing dog", but I never managed to find any "official" reference or explanation of the thing.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by johanvts »

hprotagonist wrote: post #219
joshstrange wrote: post #216

The issue I continue to have with many AI coding tools is they want me to use their own editor ("native", aka VSCode fork, or in the browser like this). I have zero intention of moving away from IDEA and nothing I've seen so far is good enough to make me want to switch. I really with there was more of "bringing AI into your existing tools/workflows" instead of "here is a new tool with AI baked in".

they're out there; https://github.com/s-kostyaev/ellama/blob/main/ellama.el for example.

Nice, there is also gptel https://github.com/karthink/gptel

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Post by CamperBob2 »

AndyKelley wrote: post #157
atomic128 wrote: post #75

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Don't fight this. Try to profit from it. People love these tools and they will become utterly, utterly dependent. Using a spell-checker, I have gradually lost my ability to spell. Using these LLM tools, large parts of the population will lose the ability to think. Try to own them like farm animals. The large number of tokens being processed by iterative models requires enormous energy. Look at the power draw of a Hop…

Counterpoint: don't try to own people like farm animals. Have pride in humanity, faith in your fellow man, and resist toxic cynicism.

Don't try to own uranium, either. Or if you do, don't store it all in one place.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by acchow »

al_borland wrote: post #114
cj wrote: post #4

This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…

I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple add something like this to Pages and some of their other apps. Their approach to AI, from what we've seen so far, has been about integrating it into existing apps and experiences, rather than making a separate AI app. I have to imagine this is the way forward, and these stand alone apps are basically tech demos for what is possible, rather than end-state for how it should be consu…

Every app with a significant installed user base is adding AI features.

OP is lamenting that Cursor and OpenAI chose to create new apps instead of integrating with (someone else’s) existing apps. But this is a result of a need to be always fully unblocked.

Also, owning the app opens up greater financial potential down the line…

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Post by throwgfgfd25 »

asukumar wrote: post #265
throwgfgfd25 wrote: post #202

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> For lots of East Asian researchers it's really embarrassing for them to send an email riddled with typos, so they spend a LOT of time making their emails nice. OK -- I can see this. But I think Grammarly would be better than this.

Grammarly uses generative AI

It does now, perhaps, for complete rewrites. I've not looked recently.

But its suggestion system, where it spots wordy patterns and suggests clearer alternatives, was available long before LLMs were the new hotness, and is considerably more nuanced (and educational).

Grammarly would take apart the nonsense in that screenshot and suggest something much less "dark and stormy night".

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