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Re: Bop Spotter

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Post by borski »

waffleiron wrote: post #330
jbullock35 wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a very public place in the United States. It's not clear that people should expect or be entitled to much privacy in these public places. We also know that, regardless of the degree of privacy to which people should be entitled, they're not legally entitled to much privacy in these places. Federal court rulings have been extremely clear on this point. In these places, we don't even have the right to not be photo…

>they're not legally entitled to much privacy in these places. While I think this is a really cool project, I also agree with the privacy issues. CA is a two party consent state, and recording a conversation (which this is likely to do) like this is likely illegal. While a person might not have a expectation of privacy about someone just hearing the conversation, they are protected by law if they are recorded without…

There is no right to privacy in a public space. It is not illegal to record an area where individuals would not have the expectation of privacy, even without their consent. Therefore, this is not illegal.

If this were a restaurant, that would be a different story.

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Post by PhiSchle »

repeekad wrote: post #312
simonw wrote: post #250

Some details on how this works: https://twitter.com/rtwlz/status/1840821351055311245 The phone has a Tasker script running on loop (even if the battery dies, it’ll restart when it boots again) Script records 10 min of audio in airplane mode, then comes out of airplane mode and connects to nearby free WiFi. Then uploads the audio file to my server, which splits it into 15 sec chunks that slightly overlap. Passes each…

surely shazam will realize when one IP address is responsible for 1000x a usual person's bandwidth? or, given Pixel phones can identify audio in the background seemingly without impacting battery, are modern algorithms for identifying music from audio so efficient that shazam pays almost nothing per clip?

At least with the recent Pixels there's an option to have your phone listen 24/7 and tell you what music is playing. Probably difficult to distinguish this tower from a homeless guy sitting in a subway station listening to different music all day.

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Post by waffleiron »

borski wrote: post #331
waffleiron wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>they're not legally entitled to much privacy in these places. While I think this is a really cool project, I also agree with the privacy issues. CA is a two party consent state, and recording a conversation (which this is likely to do) like this is likely illegal. While a person might not have a expectation of privacy about someone just hearing the conversation, they are protected by law if they are recorded without…

There is no right to privacy in a public space. It is not illegal to record an area where individuals would not have the expectation of privacy, even without their consent. Therefore, this is not illegal. If this were a restaurant, that would be a different story.

Yup you are totally right for CA:

> Exceptions (one-party consent required): (1) where there is no expectation of privacy, (2) recording within government proceedings that are open to the public, (3) recording certain crimes or communications regarding such crimes (for the purpose of obtaining evidence), (4) a victim of domestic violence recording a communication made to him/her by the perpetrator (for the purpose of obtaining a restraining order or evidence that the perpetrator violated an existing restraining order), and (5) a peace officer recording a communication within a location in response to an emergency hostage situation.

Source: https://www.mwl-law.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/RECORDING...

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Post by xandrius »

the_other wrote: post #112
xandrius wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any volume which makes your music become my music too without my consent is at asshole level.

It might be that you’re the asshole in this situation. I think the boundaries are pourous around this topic. (Sure, I just called someone random on the web an asshole. I don’t mean it with any force. In London we get people riding busses playing their im-personal stereos loudly, sometimes. I often don’t like it either. I often use headphones for my own sounds but not the blocking kind, and will have to stop my music…

That's nice you can get some nice story out of it but I do think people who grew up in cities have a totally different mindset than the rest of us.

For me, I don't want to live in a cacophony of noises 24/7. That goes for music, non-stop ambulances, loud speakers, etc.

I tried and decided that those places are not for me, so I moved back to smaller and much quieter places (I very much prefer the sound of rivers, insects and wild birds to other people's sounds.)

It might make me an asshole but it's also quite natural to be drawn to peace, so there that.

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Post by bartread »

This has cool and has made a grim, grey Tuesday morning feel a lot more fun. I would love to hook it up to a Spotify/Amazon Music/Apple Music playlist generator.

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Post by Intralexical »

I love this idea, and I also love the way the website presents it.

Short blurb. Says what it is, how it's built. Then compares it to something you might already know about, to explain what it does. Lastly says why it matters, why it's cool, right before directly showing you the results in real-time.

Very nice. Very cool project. And I honestly find it impressive too how effectively and naturally it gets the point across.

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Post by strken »

saghm wrote: post #191

I notice that on September 28 (near the top of the list, since it doesn't seem to have anything for today yet) the same Pitbull song was detected separately a little less than an hour apart, and I can't help but wonder if it was the same person listening to it on loop. Several months ago, my fiancee and I overheard someone driving outside blasting Adele's "Someone Like You" from inside our apartment, and every 45 min…

I wonder what the chance of the birthday paradox affecting the music is. Given that y song will make up x% of plays, how likely is it that any song has two consecutive plays, or two plays within an hour?

Re: Bop Spotter

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Post by Intralexical »

punnerud wrote: post #234
IncreasePosts wrote: post #74

Alright, who wants to go wardriving around the mission with me, blasting Never Gonna Give You Up?

Different old songs (still on Shazam) in lat and long direction, if you find two of them you have the exact location. Could also place a directional speaker on top of your cars roof to not listen to it yourself or interrupt neighbors, just to be able to locate it.

Space-filling curve with a single song sequence? …Non-Euclidean space-filling curve, technically, because it has to fit the city grid topology.

Large phased-array speaker on a stationary balloon platform above the city, capable of rapidly scanning and blasting every telephone pole in the neighborhood?

Re: Bop Spotter

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Post by laserbeam »

Love this!

It feels like the album art could make use of some cool dithering algorithm instead of a simple black/white filter. Something in the style of Return of the Obra Dinn.

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