Great look if you want to look like Brains from Thunderbirds.
Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses
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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses
#332If feels like every builder of AR glasses falls into the same hole. At some point, after they make them smaller and better looking than the ones before it, they think “this is enough”. It is not enough. While a large improvement, those are some chunky looking glasses that I do not imagine anyone wants on their face.
> those are some chunky looking glasses that I do not imagine anyone wants on their face
You realize this is a prototype and not available for sale to the general public... right?
Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses
#333If feels like every builder of AR glasses falls into the same hole. At some point, after they make them smaller and better looking than the ones before it, they think “this is enough”. It is not enough. While a large improvement, those are some chunky looking glasses that I do not imagine anyone wants on their face.
It feels like most people aren't actually reading. They are showcasing the current technological improvements. They did explicitly say its not enough and are just a prototype to showcase what they have so far.
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#334Imo this "mobile AR" is a stupid product category. This category is like Apple Watch on your face. You get to look at notifications, AR popups, messages and so on. It's mostly for consuming light-weight content on the go. First product in this category was the Google Glass. This category focuses on mobility, instead of pushing computing capability.
In another category, we have PCVR and Vision Pro, which are optimized for high-end computing experiences, and compete with high-end PCs with multiple displays in terms of capability. This category pushes the boundaries of what's possible to do with computers, and has the chance to elevate productivity to a completely new level. There aren't yet any devices / software that do this, but the idea is there.
These two categories might converge into a similar form factor somewhere in the far future, but as of now they represent the polar opposites of computing experience. However, I simply don't want the "mobile" experience in my life at all, and I don't think anyone wants it.
When I'm moving or spending time with friends, I try to put away all devices, and expect everyone to do the same. Also, I hate notifications and pop ups, and definitely don't want them on my face. On the other hand, when I'm alone, I want to immerse myself in CAD, programming or games, and I want to use the most capable devices and software. Only PCVR and Vision Pro are devices which might elevate the experience beyond of what we have today.
Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses
#335If feels like every builder of AR glasses falls into the same hole. At some point, after they make them smaller and better looking than the ones before it, they think “this is enough”. It is not enough. While a large improvement, those are some chunky looking glasses that I do not imagine anyone wants on their face.
I mean, these things are probably close to the physical limit for how small and light they can possibly be.
Without relying on a tether, there's only so much you can do. You have to put some compute, battery, and optics somewhere. The optics in particular will always be fairly large just due to the physics of light and lenses.
The only way I can see us sidestepping these problems is by putting the optics somewhere else and using a fiber optic tether. Even then, you still need some optics in the glasses to project onto the display lenses.
Maybe someone will figure out how to do a transparent OLED display on the lenses directly. Even then, you've cut the bulk required for optics but you still need somewhere to put the electronics. A tether is really the only way to go if your concern is form factor.
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#336When they say "holographic display", do they mean "wave interference patterns" (true hologram) or just "Pepper's ghost" type stuff?
The displayed images are not light fields, just regular stereo 3D. However, the waveguides are holographic. So it's technically correct. And the displayed images will look like the hologram projectors seen in popular movies like Star Wars, so it's not misleading either.
Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses
#337If feels like every builder of AR glasses falls into the same hole. At some point, after they make them smaller and better looking than the ones before it, they think “this is enough”. It is not enough. While a large improvement, those are some chunky looking glasses that I do not imagine anyone wants on their face.
> they think “this is enough”
That is literally the opposite of what Meta is saying. In fact they aren't even releasing this pair because they know it's too chunky.
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#338I guess I'm the only one, but I love these. They seem so fun. I would definitely rather have glasses than to carry a phone around with me.
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#339I know meta (ha) discussions are frowned upon on HN, but I never really understood why, so here it goes: This link weights in 115MB. It loads a 30MB GIF for its hero image. That's from a company that was born on and from the Web. The people that brought you React.
The "GIF" is a video. You are watching a bunch of advertising videos. 115 MB isn't really very much in that regard.
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#340I know it's a prototype, but yikes those are large and goofy looking. Reminds me of the old 80's NHS glasses in the UK (which you could get for free if you couldn't afford otherwise). Or for those of you old enough, Brains from the old Supermarionation versions of the Thunderbird show ( https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article8451975.ec... )
This is common with everything new tech. The first laptops, the first phones, the first iPhone, the first iPod and so on started out large.
True! But society can move backwards sometimes, todays smartphones are growing and and each generation of BEV gets heavier!
Something in the collective unconscious is screaming "put the biggest brick you can make in my hand and give me a main battle tank to go to TJ's." and industry is happy to oblige!
Maybe wearing a gigantic ugly thing on your face that beeps and has flashing lights isn't such a far step