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How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by kumarvvr »

xrd wrote: post #81

I have kids and I'm really bothered by MrBeast. I had to buy goddamn chocolate bars at Walmart because of him. I acknowledge he is creative and driven but the content is such crap, with a few exceptions that my kids point out. But, what's the alternative? For example, I love 3brown1blue videos. But, it is too advanced even for my eleven year old. Mark Rober videos are great, and my kids love them, but he's even insid…

> But, what's the alternative?

Avoiding one sided content altogether. Any and all video content must be rejected.

Learning to do things from books is the only way we can safeguard the next generation from becoming mind fucked zombies who have lost the cognitive ability to think for themselves.

Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by gk1 »

GlacierFox wrote: post #273
shalmanese wrote: post #217

One distressing trend I've noticed becoming ubiquitous on HN is that any writing that is confronting to a consensus worldview becomes flooded with highly upvoted comments that are, in essence, excuses for why it's not necessary in this instance to re-examine your priors. He's making low value content/the culture of the company is horrible/he's a fraud/it's more luck than skill. The actual critiques are personalized t…

Is it just me or is the way you construct sentences jarring and hard to read? Not sure if it's my dyslexia but I had trouble deciphering the first couple of paragraphs/word jumbles.

+1 I read the whole comment and still have no idea what point they’re making or even what side they’re on.

To the grandparent: if you put in the effort to make yourself more clear, you might get the quality responses you wish for.

Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by rexpop »

shalmanese wrote: post #217

One distressing trend I've noticed becoming ubiquitous on HN is that any writing that is confronting to a consensus worldview becomes flooded with highly upvoted comments that are, in essence, excuses for why it's not necessary in this instance to re-examine your priors. He's making low value content/the culture of the company is horrible/he's a fraud/it's more luck than skill. The actual critiques are personalized t…

What I find even more tedious is the viewpoint that imagines itself "confronting to a consensus worldview" while echoing mainline meritocratic commercialism.

Shades of "What You Can't Say"[0].

0. https://www.paulgraham.com/say.html

Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by mrmetanoia »

shalmanese wrote: post #217

One distressing trend I've noticed becoming ubiquitous on HN is that any writing that is confronting to a consensus worldview becomes flooded with highly upvoted comments that are, in essence, excuses for why it's not necessary in this instance to re-examine your priors. He's making low value content/the culture of the company is horrible/he's a fraud/it's more luck than skill. The actual critiques are personalized t…

I agree. We have to raise our personal standards to raise our community standards. The nihilism here is a self fulfilling prophecy and sad to see.

Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by tkgally »

It might be interesting to contrast MrBeast’s management approach with that of Marques Brownlee (MKBHD). He is also a successful YouTuber who leads a team that puts out videos on several channels. While his videos don’t have the huge production scale of MrBeast’s, they seem to be produced on short deadlines and must require close coordination among his team.

If I were young and wanted to work in online media production, I would much rather work for Marques Brownlee than for MrBeast.

Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by qwertytyyuu »

bwy wrote: post #284
shalmanese wrote: post #217

One distressing trend I've noticed becoming ubiquitous on HN is that any writing that is confronting to a consensus worldview becomes flooded with highly upvoted comments that are, in essence, excuses for why it's not necessary in this instance to re-examine your priors. He's making low value content/the culture of the company is horrible/he's a fraud/it's more luck than skill. The actual critiques are personalized t…

I wonder how many of those "sour grapes" commenters have actually read the thing–my guess, not many. Then on the first page of the "silly little book," where I already have the question: "why should I read this? Why would an employee spend time reading this?" Immediately he addresses that: "if you read this book and pass a quiz I’ll give you $1,000." And if you've seen MrBeast videos, it's not inconceivable that ever…

Heck I’m not a subscriber to him and I read the whole document

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Post by aaron695 »

mihaic wrote: post #249
shalmanese wrote: post #217

One distressing trend I've noticed becoming ubiquitous on HN is that any writing that is confronting to a consensus worldview becomes flooded with highly upvoted comments that are, in essence, excuses for why it's not necessary in this instance to re-examine your priors. He's making low value content/the culture of the company is horrible/he's a fraud/it's more luck than skill. The actual critiques are personalized t…

Have you considered that the sour grapes attitude actually comes from an understanding of the world, and how everything has been turned only into profit maximization? And that the nitpicking is merely a failure to express that understanding of the world, especially since it seems like pro-status quo commenters don't care to learn more? I think I'm one of the sour grapes commenters often, and I've very often tried to…

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Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by grogenaut »

Bayko wrote: post #111
Loughla wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>what does it bring the world, literally? I'm betting over 90% of what we do, collectively, really doesn't offer any true "value" to the world for however you're defining value. Which means that your measurement is bad because it's based on your opinion. Just like your comparison to Hitler. For supporters of Hitler, the things he did were amazing. But that was just their opinion.

I agree. Almost all of us are writing CRUD apis and react components at work what are we contributing to the world of value? Hmm nothing I say!

After working on a big entertainment time waster social site all week (not so much a crud app) I spent all today running first aid at special Olympics which I think provided value which the crud app let me do. Does that count?

Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by throw10920 »

userbinator wrote: post #134
throw10920 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what subculture you're living in, but in several of mine there absolutely is pushback against this, with people avoiding consuming this kind of content and trying to prevent their children from consuming it, too. Now, the question why the larger US (or English-speaking) culture isn't uniformly doing the same is much more interesting, but there's no known reason for this and most of the common explanation…

IMHO it's quite divisive; there's a significant percentage of the population that's addicted to this sort of content, and there's another which actually finds it boring . I've watched a few MrBeast videos and similar content, out of curiosity. It just does not appeal to me, in the same way that "influencer" content and celebrities don't.

Your acute observation that a large number of people find MrBeast content boring suggests part of the reason why there isn't more cultural pushback to it - because lots of people simply don't care about it.
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