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Post by ajross »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #275
paxys wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> All the spectacular advances in computing power are lost on her as this makes zero difference for the Facebook cat video group and Pinterest. Gonna disagree with this one. Tell me, does using an iPhone today feel significantly faster than the top model 2-3 years ago or even 10 years ago? Does the battery last a lot longer than it did back then? Apple certainly claims this is the case in their marketing every year.…

> does using an iPhone today feel significantly faster than one from 2-3 years ago? Yes. Absolutely. We just forget that opening an app--or restarting the device, or recovering from airplane mode--was an action that incurred a noticeable delay once and does not tend to anymore.

Is opening an app on an iPhone 13 actually noticeably slow? What you're saying is true if you go back to a distant enough horizon, of course, but... 2-3 years? I don't really see it.

I'm on the other side of the fence, and just replaced a Pixel 7 with a 9. And quite frankly I bought it because I was Supposed To. I'm sure there are benchmarks to say otherwise, but routine use is basically instant on both and absent a professional desire I quite frankly would have just waited until I broke it.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by iteratethis »

IgorPartola wrote: post #284
iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

The real advancements majority of users would notice: - Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones - More battery life. - Better camera (arguably already achieved) - lesser issue but fix the stupid bugs with storage/duplication with pictures and messages. I am already paying for a TB level plan with iCloud. How can my phone possibly run out of storage? That’s it. All the AI stuff is marginal at best and usel…

Agreed on battery life. It's such a pity that advances in battery tech is never given back to the user.

As for green text, this is purely a US thing. Most of the rest of the world uses Whatsapp.

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Post by manmal »

whalesalad wrote: post #27
cube2222 wrote: post #19

I was planning to upgrade this year, and probably still will, but honestly, the differences between the base model and pro model this year are fairly limited. ProMotion, Always-on display, a bunch more resistant to fall damage, and a camera that is better, but doesn't look like a lot. I'm a bit worried about the Apple Intelligence features, as they've been very prominent on WWDC, but were fairly toned-down today. Not…

I can't live without the pro motion display now. I'm on a 13 right now so this will be a big upgrade for me personally.

I‘m on a 13 Pro right now, and an iOS developer, so should have a reason to upgrade now. But the iffy situation with Apple intelligence in the EU makes me hesitate.

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Post by Gud »

veber-alex wrote: post #278
keyle wrote: post #270

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Agree with what you wrote. That said quality of life things such as pro motion and increase battery life are noticeable. Scrolling at 120hz is butter smooth and improves the UX quite a lot. While battery life is peace of mind that you don't have to worry about. What ticks me off is OpenAI integration in my private life. I really like chatGPT as a daily google box but I hate the idea of it meddling in my private infor…

So don't enable it. ChatGPT is optional.

Until it isn’t.

Try using CarPlay without enabling Siri.

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Post by FireBeyond »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #283
arcticbull wrote: post #274

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> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. Battery replacement costs at Apple are $69-99 and offered all the way back to the iPhone SE 1st Generation. That's the all-in cost where you bring it in, they open it up, swap it out, and give your phone back to you. An OEM battery for an Android phone is like $50. Budgeting $69-99 once every 3-4 years hardly seems like it's goin…

Agreed. Apple phones are quite repairable (just not DIY-able), no one is dropping 1000 dollars on a new phone because their current one has a cracked back glass. Watching their live feed, one of Apple's selling points on such an expensive phone is that it will last a long time and have a higher re-sale value than other phones. It's not a case of planned obsolescence.

There are absolutely cases where they have artificially gated features to new devices, even when the hardware is capable (I'm thinking around Handoff/Continuity, etc.). Where the initial reaction is "maybe it's a new BT chip or ..." but it can be shown that the functionality is perfect when some trickery is done to fool the OS its running on more modern hardware.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by davidy123 »

I've been an Android user since day 1, but am very impressed by some of these features. I'd love to have the half-click to focus feature and other dedicated camera button features, macro, a few other things that put this generation in a next category. I'd like to see them catch up and surpass all of Google's onboard AI features, and it looks like they're working on it. Being able to find a section of a video by a vague description, all on-device, is incredible. And they're finally improving their photo app. If Apple offered call screening, ambient song identification/logging, and allowed browsers to support extensions, I'd be tempted to switch, especially since they have a clearer privacy story. I'm glad strong competition is continuing, especially around privacy.

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Post by grimgrin »

saurik wrote: post #97
paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

Do people have to "upgrade" constantly? Shouldn't the iPhone get at least a little bit better every year, even if no one "upgrades"? I often use my devices for years until they break in some way, and then I get a new one... is it really so wrong that the 2024 model is only better in ways you don't care about from the 2023 model?

Dunno exactly what my dance is but more than once I’ve found myself getting on the upgrade program, but not upgrading on the 12 month opportunity and instead paying it off over the next 12. If it has a crack I’ll do a last minute applecare swap while I got it. Cool, new old phone for another cycle

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Post by HeavenFox »

EcommerceFlow wrote: post #149

ATT is offering $1,000 trade in for Iphone 12 - 15, an amazing deal for those with slightly older iphones. Obviously it pays off over 36 months, but I don't see myself switching anytime soon so it works out. I think the others have similar deals too.

imho these high trade in offers are basically carrier-subsidized phones in new clothes: in exchange of a discount, you agree to stick with the carrier and phone for the next 3 years. And the discount may not be that great! You can get plenty of money if you sell the phone yourself.

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Post by stroupwaffle »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

My biggest complaint is that the lenses aren’t flush with the back. I hate having cases on my phone, and their design makes wireless charging somewhat useless because it’s not flush with the charging mat.
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