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Ugh that is stupid. Outlook/Exchange already add a bunch of custom headers - you'd think they could use those to opt-in clients that are known to support this feature instead of making the rest of the world opt-out. That approach would provide a better experience for both Outlook users (since they would always know who could actually receive their reactions) and non-Outlook users (who wouldn't have to put up with the…
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no it would be great if you had to prove you own the device to opt-in.
After the most massive awareness campaign you can imagine to get people to know about this at all, the opt-in rate would likely be < 0.00000001%. Cash-like incentives would be required. Likely, router manufactures would have to be bribed to promote that to the users, and have some opt-in screen in the router firmware.
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Gmail has had this feature since 2023: https://blog.google/products/gmail/gmail-emoji-reactions/
You keep posting this over and over. So what? Is it supposed the be okay because Google does it too?
I replied thrice because I was surprised to read commenters replies as if Outlook introduced a new unheard-of feature. Including an interop related question I thought about later, because I still can’t understand why emojis involve loading images.
I found the thread too late to develop a well researched post and so commented as I read. Sorry if it offends your sensibilities. But why are you policing how I comment? :-)
Also, why Gmail is important: It’s a fairly major email provider so it sort of matters when they deployed this. Two market majors having a feature usually implies others will follow suit — eventually.
> is it supposed to be okay
This assumes so much. I’ll turn this around. Why’s it not okay? I can’t see any RFC that forbids this. It’s not a feature I’m interested in but I think it’s interesting that email is evolving to match what users are used to on Slack, Teams, WhatsApp etc. And (software) evolution is something I’m very interested in.
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After the most massive awareness campaign you can imagine to get people to know about this at all, the opt-in rate would likely be < 0.00000001%. Cash-like incentives would be required. Likely, router manufactures would have to be bribed to promote that to the users, and have some opt-in screen in the router firmware.
oh no, that's sad. anyway.
Can an anti-reaction person explain what they find so distasteful about them? Is it that the other person wasn't willing to make the effort to type is seen as disrespectful? struggling to see what the problem is
No, it's exactly the opposite. "Reaction" responses are irrelevant noise that clogs up the communication channel and wastes other people's time and attention.
People don't usually manually type these sorts of reactions because doing so is not often worth the effort. But this feature eliminates the friction, and encourages people to engage in behavior that is effectively spamming.
Apple added the same thing for iMessage/SMS. It worked as expected if the group message was all Apple users. But if you were the unfortunate person outside the ecosystem, you would get spammed with ‘{person} liked “{message}”’. In some cases, people would react to the reaction leading to some ridiculous chains of text.
As an Android user, I often wonder if Apple users realize how stupid their replies look to non-Apple users. I wonder if I should tell them or just move on.
The person sending the reaction sees it on the message like an iMessage, but everything in a non-iMessage group text (iOS, android, or other) gets sent the same “liked your message” text. Nowadays both Android and iOS parse those texts and apply the reaction as if it was sent normally, but that’s a decent change
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It isn't distasteful, it is harmful. I asked a question recently to someone and got a "like" back as the "answer". I then spent one minute pondering wtf this message even was (it was the first of its kind that I received) and another pondering wtf the respondent meant as the question was not of the form "do you like XXX?". This "feature", at least in this case, was not a form of communication of but a disruptive form…
I guess i fail to see how your example is different from someone responding with "K" or some other equally unhelpful non-reaction response
Asking a question and getting "I like your question" as the sole response is incredibly obnoxious.
In an outlook only company, reactions make a ton of sense. They save tons of "great, thank you " emails. Of course you can still send real thank you emails when you're genuinely thankful!
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In case you haven't realized, you're the odd one out, today, in 2024. I don't mean this in a negative way - I just mean that you're out of what's usual.
I always wonder about these "you're in the minority" responses. Why is that an important point? Also, pretty much everybody on HN is "in the minority". We're a pretty narrow demographic compared to the general population.