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Chat Control Must Be Stopped – Now

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Re: Chat Control Must Be Stopped – Now

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post #173

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Just not being available in app stores would effectively stop its usage.

That is hardy going to be a factor. Most people are not going to care anyway and those that do will be able to install it without an app store.

Those pesky seed servers will still exist though.

Re: Chat Control Must Be Stopped – Now

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post #257

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Until possession and distribution of such apps becomes a crime in itself. That's the only way to enforce it and there is history for it in cryptography export laws and anti-circumvention laws.

Criminals don't care about what is "legal", that's what makes the criminals in the first place and in any case, what are you going to do? Ban encryption entirely? Perhaps we also should ban mathematics and books while we are at it? After all, criminals can read chemistry books and learn how to make explosives..

Apparently the cartels in Mexico have discovered a way to mix crystal meth with gasoline, put it in a cars tank, drive it across the boarder then separate it from the gas for distribution. The process is supposedly currently unknown to science (I’m no chemist so can’t be sure).

Re: Chat Control Must Be Stopped – Now

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What kind of police work are you envisaging?

Well for one, the FBI could investigate the list of Epstein's clients which they almost certainly have.

You’ve jumped the pond, this article is about Europe not the US

Re: Chat Control Must Be Stopped – Now

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Well for one, the FBI could investigate the list of Epstein's clients which they almost certainly have.

You’ve jumped the pond, this article is about Europe not the US

It's an example. You don't think Interpol and individual EU countries' police have similar options?

The fact that these things often end up brushed under the rug makes me doubt that the goal here is really to catch abusers.

Re: Chat Control Must Be Stopped – Now

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Because the age of consent is 14 in Germany.

This is not true.

>The age of consent in Germany is 14

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Germ...

I always find it funny when Americans find out that Europeans aren't prudes like them.

Re: Chat Control Must Be Stopped – Now

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post #273

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I don’t think the voters are the problem. I think the established parties keep growing in all the worst ways, and I don’t think any decent candidate would be able to be successful in this setting. Would happily work with voters to figure out a path forward.

And why are the established parties doing this? Why is it in their interest to keep advancing terrible candidates? I dunno. I kinda do think voters are the problem. Or at least a link in a chain of problems, the next link up being corporate controlled media.

I'd say barriers to entry - being an established party gives you more revenue, supporters to do campaigning, influence, etc.

One place that tries to do it better in my opinion is Switzerland. It has a lot of controls to reduce the ability of politicians to act poorly and limits the power of higher levels (if something can be resolved well locally, there's no need to have a higher-level regulation). A lot of process is thought through and in place to enable direct voting on issues. Additionally, it has many levels to get engaged, which lowers the barriers to entry, by being able to have an impact on a local level.

Re: Chat Control Must Be Stopped – Now

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You serious? I nearly cried watching what was happening in Ukraine early in 2022. You are making bad assumptions here. But if you want to put it into perspective… think about what is happening in Gaza. Now compare to Ukraine. Russia has plenty of missiles and by comparison (even while absolutely awful) have shown much more restraint. I don’t support them at all though!

Russia is showing restraint because they’re fighting a war of attrition, are the invading force, and believe they have something to prove with a win. Israel is removing a terrorist organization from the face of the earth. Not the same.

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Re: Chat Control Must Be Stopped – Now

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post #127

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The issue is the rise of mass surveillance tech, which makes it too easy. Also, tech creates new threats (including terror plots, protecting children etc) which drive demand for the surveillance.

> Also, tech creates new threats Tech doesn't create terrorism or child abuse.

These are human nature (unfortunately) - tech creates new methods and channels to conduct and amplify these evil behaviors.

Please don't paint bike sheds. Drones are a new threat, obviously with humans manufacturing, arming and flying them.

Re: Chat Control Must Be Stopped – Now

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post #116

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May I ask what country, age, and – as bad word it is – class is your threema-using social circle? Because here it is mostly facebook/messenger, discord, instagram, and a distant whatsapp, in order.

part is in their 50s, tech illiterate by privacy-focused. Other part are colleagues (30s-40s) who are privacy focused. This is Europe (Germany) though - the landscape here is absolutely dominated by whatsapp by a huge margin.

I live in Poland, it's funny, WA never took a real foodhold here, we mostly use to communicate with people abroad who refuse anything else.

FB Messenger is the king here.

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