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Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by laughinghan »

J3L2404 wrote: post #317
laughinghan wrote: post #186

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I'll bite. Why do you think this "clearly unethical"? I don't think it's clear at all. Everyone I know pirates movies, TV shows, and music. Everyone I know also jaywalks. I also know people who use drugs illegally, as well as participate in or facilitate underage drinking, and I don't have a problem with any of it. Are these unethical? Someone clearly thought so. Do I care? You know what the truth is, for me, and eve…

HN is dead.

Really? You think yourself so above me, so better than me, in every way, that not only don't I deserve a response, but I herald the death of the HN as a place for insightful discussions?

Maybe there would be more insightful discussions if people had more to say than "HN is dead" in response to a confused, imperfect person expressing where they are on the path to discerning right from wrong.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by sukuriant »

Karunamon wrote: post #285
sukuriant wrote: post #131

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How does any of what he said sound like it's from the MPAA? I don't like piracy one bit and I try very hard to find legal solutions to my media wants (not needs): Netflix, Amazon Prime, CrunchyRoll, Zune, Vudu, Red Box, Hulu, iTunes, Sony's Video Unlimited (not completely out yet?) What is so bad about honestly getting permission to watch things you want to watch? [edit: added more to the list]

>What is so bad about honestly getting permission to watch things you want to watch? Because the terms are offensive and anti-consumer. Let us count the ways: 1. Overpriced 2. DRM encumbered 3. Bad UX (by way of 2) 4. Platform lock-in (by way of 2) 5. Geograhphy lock-in (again, by way of 2) So basically, if I live in Europe, I can pay downright extortionate rates to access content in a format which goes out of its wa…

Middlemen that footed the bill for the actual production of the movie and its advertisement?

Wouldn't that be akin to cutting a VC out of their percent of the earnings?

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by Tmmrn »

nddrylliog wrote: post #65
Tmmrn wrote: post #62

Not working in konqueror and midori. In opera I had to hit enter twice - but only once, then it worked normally. Background images that are even bigger than 700 KB and every single click on a link has a new one? Is that really necessary? While the search is all nice and stuff, what about browsing available stuff? Is that an intentionally lacking feature because you say "please don't download content that you haven't…

Konqueror and Midori are not on our radar (although we know of them). We'll try to keep them in mind also admittedly that's not priority #1. About backgrounds: the randomness is part of what attracts people to the website (bored? just reload N times). That said, for logged on users, there could be an option 'disable random background' or something like that. Why is page size a problem btw? Are you browsing on mobile?…

Not all people have fast internet connections. Seeing a background image loading 2+ seconds just isn't a good impression.

There are file specific things where imdb wouldn't help me:

What if I want to browse all 720p or better h.264 science fiction movies with a german audio track?

Stuff like that.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by watsix »

laughinghan wrote: post #305
watsix wrote: post #213

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Using drugs, "facilitating underage drinking" and even jaywalking are quite a bit different than stealing. You say you "don't steal (physical things)" as if that makes it ok, but you are stealing. It's a different form of stealing, but you do steal, you lack empathy for the act, and you are usually hurting the creators of that material in one way or another. Even today, there are societies where it is "socially accep…

You make one good point, but I think you overall misunderstand my stance. Firstly, You say you "don't steal (physical things)" as if that makes it ok... I don't think not stealing makes piracy ok, and I didn't say so. What I mean, and what I tried to say, was that I haven't decided whether I think piracy is ethical or not, and I care little enough that I probably won't decide for the forseeable future. ...but you are…

In my eyes (and maybe this is unreasonable of me, anyone else?), you lose credibility when you state, as fact, your own opinions that you know other people disagree on.

You begin your comment by saying "You make one good point…" Is that a fact? No. Did you state it as a fact? Yes, in that you stated it without qualifiers. Does that mean you have no credibility? Of course not, come on.

For the rest of it, let's rephrase your own logic a bit: "I don't know if sending people to the back of the bus is wrong, but I care little enough that I probably won't decide for the foreseeable future" would be a pretty weak argument against declaring segregation unethical.

It hinges around the idea of whether or not you're hurting people. You started your original comment by saying that "clearly unethical" is a debatable point, but then you tried to draw an equivalence between piracy and a three more victimless acts. You then say "ethics don't matter" and follow that up with "I don't hurt people." I'm saying you do hurt people. It's debatable, but you dismiss debate of it by trying to argue that ethics don't matter and you're not going to think about it. That's not a good counter an assertion that piracy is unethical.

(As a side note, the Stanford Experiment and related studies suggest that both of us would beat and murder women if it were socially acceptable. Creepy stuff that, which is one of the reasons why I think it's important not to tie "ethical" too closely to "socially acceptable." It's also why your notion that "ethics don't matter, I don't really have to think about it" upsets me, perhaps more than it should.)

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by J3L2404 »

laughinghan wrote: post #331
J3L2404 wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is dead.

Really? You think yourself so above me, so better than me, in every way, that not only don't I deserve a response, but I herald the death of the HN as a place for insightful discussions? Maybe there would be more insightful discussions if people had more to say than "HN is dead" in response to a confused, imperfect person expressing where they are on the path to discerning right from wrong.

You have plenty of responses. But you are probably right. I'm the problem.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by res0nat0r »

nddrylliog wrote: post #145
scott_s wrote: post #138

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I find your comment disingenuous. I cannot take you seriously when you argue that you are not "interested" in the very thing you enable and are focused on.

I can see why you would think that. However, if there were APIs to license all that content on an invidual basis instead of linking to torrents, we'd do it instead. Can't really argue beyond that, you're right to some extent.

How about just linking to the movies themselves if they are available on Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, Lovefilm, iTunes or VUDU instead then?

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by mistercow »

tptacek wrote: post #289
mistercow wrote: post #263

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"Where do you draw the line?" is almost always a trivial rephrasing of the slippery slope fallacy. We live in a world where there are no lines, and we draw them in arbitrary places so that we can make the world work. If that bothers you, you are just going to have to adjust your worldview to be compatible with the reality you were born into.

Help me understand how your comment doesn't imply that all ethics are situational and relative?

As far as I can see, the two concepts have no bearing on each other whatsoever, but in any case, I can't help you to understand how something doesn't imply something else. You're going to have to justify how it does imply that. You can start by defining "situational" and "relative".

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by phos »

danberger wrote: post #152
jsprinkles wrote: post #57

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Gazelle is awful, and far too many private trackers use it.

what's so awful about it?

  - Custom wrapper around MySQLi, which doesn't support parametrized queries
  - No separation of Model, View and Controller (in 10 lines, there's SQL, HTML, JS, PHP and if you get lucky, PHP generating JS or piecing together HTML)
  - Their idea of IRC integration is to write a bot in PHP, where different pages send it raw IRC commands to execute
  - is_numeric used for most SQL injection checks
  - User information stored in two tables (users_main, users_info), for no apparent reason
  - About 1/3 of the code is in a file named script_start.php, which defines a mess of global variables and functions
  - They store PHP-serialized data in MySQL TEXT fields
  - They store pipe-separated data in MySQL TEXT fields
I could go on, but you get the idea.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by nddrylliog »

J3L2404 wrote: post #335
laughinghan wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? You think yourself so above me, so better than me, in every way, that not only don't I deserve a response, but I herald the death of the HN as a place for insightful discussions? Maybe there would be more insightful discussions if people had more to say than "HN is dead" in response to a confused, imperfect person expressing where they are on the path to discerning right from wrong.

You have plenty of responses. But you are probably right. I'm the problem.

From your comment history, you sound very sour and jaded. I do not envy you.

If reading HN (and commenting on this kind of submission) makes you unhappy, why don't you just stop and focus on the things that make you happy?

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