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Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by chucksta »

dylan604 wrote: post #24
chucksta wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Even if each of the victims reported them to the police, the value of the items from each theft wouldn't add up to much in the grand scheme of things. I don't think you know how expensive commercial power tools and accessories are.. They cited 15k items with a range of 3-5 million. At 3 million that's $200 an item. Hardly peanuts. The article also says the tools likely came from a variety of sources

I don't think you know anything about me to claim I don't know the value of tools commercial or not. I have quite the collection, come from a family of construction where my grandfather was a custom cabinet maker where I grew up in his woodshop. It's amazing how people just assume so wildly wrong. Even at $200, that doesn't even qualify as anything more than a misdemeanor. The police are just not going to care if the…

Maybe you are familiar. But the point of calculating per item was to show its easy to take thousands of dollars out of the back of a truck in an instant. Most are targeted, as in this case as it was the second time, and not a crime of opportunity like you experienced.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by dylan604 »

chucksta wrote: post #331
dylan604 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you know anything about me to claim I don't know the value of tools commercial or not. I have quite the collection, come from a family of construction where my grandfather was a custom cabinet maker where I grew up in his woodshop. It's amazing how people just assume so wildly wrong. Even at $200, that doesn't even qualify as anything more than a misdemeanor. The police are just not going to care if the…

Maybe you are familiar. But the point of calculating per item was to show its easy to take thousands of dollars out of the back of a truck in an instant. Most are targeted, as in this case as it was the second time, and not a crime of opportunity like you experienced.

They guy was a successful score in the past. More than likely, it was the same people coming back to see what else could be taken. Especially now seeing it was a large operation makes me even more confident that would be likely. Not really sure what your point is at all. Except you seem to think that $200 is enough to make a cops investigative socks go up and down which is the point of contention. Even an ant hill can get massive one grain of dirt at a time. Lots of ~$200 items adds up to a big number, but again, individually they are nothing to get police excited about at all. It's not even enough to claim on insurance. You're just really trying for some unknown reason to hold on to this fallacy of yours.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by PlunderBunny »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #79
kstrauser wrote: post #41

"But AirTags aren't for finding stolen things!", someone asserts every time someone mentions wanting to use AirTags for finding stolen things.

And q-tips aren't for cleaning ears, but what you gonna do.

When I was a kid, my doctor told me never to stick anything in my ear that was smaller than my elbow.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by gwbas1c »

dhosek wrote: post #153
gwbas1c wrote: post #40

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Makes me wonder if they were having trouble selling? It seems "poor business" to let stolen items sit for up to a decade.

When I was car shopping back 20 years ago, there was a 18-year-old car with low milage and a salvage title offered for sale that the seller claimed had been stolen and sat in a warehouse for over a decade. I think a lot of theft in general ends up being “poor business.”

I'm going to assume that whoever's doing the stealing is being paid; as opposed to merely amassing a warehouse of tools collecting dust.

So, how is the money coming in to pay the thieves? How is the money coming in to continue to pay for the storage units to store the tools? It doesn't make sense.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

paulmd wrote: post #327
hluska wrote: post #310

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I just asked this question and I’ll ask it again. Why be so combative? You wrote the sound of a siren - that’s overly combative. Fucking chill. This is a website, few of us are politicians and our opinions barely matter.

we are talking about someone getting mad because they didn't like the word "copaganda" getting used in a discussion lol, how is this anything other than a total distraction from the point? sealioning is right, bringing it up in the first place was a distraction, by design . if you don't want to discuss copaganda, get mad about the fact someone used the word copaganda rather than contradicting its existence or usage.…

I didn’t say it to be distracting. Indeed, I said it because the use of the word is distracting.

I am ambivalent on the topics in question. I could be persuaded either way by facts. But once someone reveals strong emotion motivates their argument, I am distrustful of their “facts.”

Sure, that might be quintessentially ad hominem, but we aren’t talking about mathematical proofs here. There is no indisputable proof. It’s just hearts and minds.

I’m not offended nor immature. I’m not tone policing. Speak and believe whatever you want. I was just commenting that I find that tone unpersuasive.

Just like I find the hypocrisy of calling me immature in the same comment that you lambast me for an ad hominem attack unpersuasive.

Anyhow, good luck storming the castle.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by jonathankoren »

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #335
paulmd wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

we are talking about someone getting mad because they didn't like the word "copaganda" getting used in a discussion lol, how is this anything other than a total distraction from the point? sealioning is right, bringing it up in the first place was a distraction, by design . if you don't want to discuss copaganda, get mad about the fact someone used the word copaganda rather than contradicting its existence or usage.…

I didn’t say it to be distracting. Indeed, I said it because the use of the word is distracting. I am ambivalent on the topics in question. I could be persuaded either way by facts. But once someone reveals strong emotion motivates their argument, I am distrustful of their “facts.” Sure, that might be quintessentially ad hominem, but we aren’t talking about mathematical proofs here. There is no indisputable proof. It…

Bro. Don't literally admit to engaging in ad hominem attacks, and then get all pissy and try to gaslight and then condemn calling out your behavior as an illegitimate ad hominem attack.

We can read the the entire thread.

Take your L and go home and cry.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

jonathankoren wrote: post #336
Hnrobert42 wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn’t say it to be distracting. Indeed, I said it because the use of the word is distracting. I am ambivalent on the topics in question. I could be persuaded either way by facts. But once someone reveals strong emotion motivates their argument, I am distrustful of their “facts.” Sure, that might be quintessentially ad hominem, but we aren’t talking about mathematical proofs here. There is no indisputable proof. It…

Bro. Don't literally admit to engaging in ad hominem attacks, and then get all pissy and try to gaslight and then condemn calling out your behavior as an illegitimate ad hominem attack. We can read the the entire thread. Take your L and go home and cry.

Gaslighting. “You keep using that word. I’m not sure it means what you think it means.” - Enigo Montoya

I admit to an ad hominem argument. Then I point out that my critic is themselves using one. That’s not gaslighting. Gaslighting would be if I denied it.

And yes, I say that is hypocritical and unpersuasive. But it is unpersuasive because it is hypocritical not because it is ad hominem.

I doubt this is persuasive to you. It sounds like you are emotionally invested in this. But hopefully you can at least see my intention was not to deceive or manipulate.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by seany »

consumer451 wrote: post #92
jeffbee wrote: post #81

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Yeah, and then people act like the flea market is some precious cornerstone of the local culture. In my city there is a flea market that has dozens of freshly stolen bikes every week. There's a fund where people buy back the bikes and reunite them with their owners. Unfortunately, there's no fund supporting violence against these bike thieves.

Violence for property crime is a bit 18th century, no? I've been robbed, and wanted to inflict violence in the heat of the moment, but cooler heads... prison would be fine, and you know, civilized.

There has to be some kind of personality distribution thing here with how people view this kind of thing. My general take is "I'm attacked, _especially_ if I'm with family; just shoot them. There isn't even a quibble in my head.
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