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Leaked OpenAI documents reveal aggressive tactics toward former employees

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Re: Leaked OpenAI documents reveal aggressive tactics toward former employees

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Post by dcreater »

ramesh31 wrote: post #80

They could have been cool. They could have been 2001 Google. They could have been the number one place any new PhD wanted to work. But no. The MBAs saw dollar signs, and everything went out the window. They fumbled the early mover advantage, and will be hollowed out by the competition and commodified by the PaaS giants. What a shame.

The sad thing is that this isn't even MBAs. The Bay area has gotten so infested with the hustlers and win-at-all-costs, winner-takes-all YC mantra tech bros that it seems even a high minded company like OpenAI isn't immune

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Post by Der_Einzige »

tedivm wrote: post #28
NotSammyHagar wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reads like more than standard restrictions. I hate those like everyone, they are just intended to chill complaints in my opinion with enough question to scare average people without legal expertise (like me, like most devs), just like non-competes used to seemingly primarily be used to discourage looking at other jobs, separate from whether it was enforceable - note the recent FTC decision to end non-competes. A…

I have worked for multiple startups (Malwarebytes, Vicarious, Rad AI, Explosion AI, Aptible, Kenna Security). Not once have I seen an exit agreement that stated they would steal back my vested equity if I didn't sign. This is definitely not "standard restrictions".

How is malwarebytes a startup? They were a thing when I was a baby!

Re: Leaked OpenAI documents reveal aggressive tactics toward former employees

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Post by HaZeust »

dvaun wrote: post #312
HaZeust wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also appears softer and borderline condescending. I always thought it was feminine because I've only seen women do it before very recently.

It’s pretty common in chatrooms, forums, etc. Been commonplace for at least two decades.

Eh, I mean in a post-smart keyboard era that will do it for you, and you either have to disable it OR purposely backspace and re-write it.

Re: Leaked OpenAI documents reveal aggressive tactics toward former employees

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Post by jhatemyjob »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #153

Everyone is out for Sam Altman, and there are reasons to scrutinize him. But on this issue - it is common for a company's Legal and HR teams to make decisions on language in docs like these (exit docs) entirely on their own. So it is plausible that Sam Altman had no idea that this aggressive language existed. One reason to think the same thing is true here, is I recall Sam spoke up for employee friendly equity plans…

Plus there's a million ways you can get screwed out of your equity

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Post by ur-whale »

JCM9 wrote: post #132

There’s a recurring pattern here of OpenAI getting caught red handed doing bad things and then being all like “Oh it was just a misunderstanding, nothing more, we’ll get on to fixing that ASAP… nothing to see here…” It’s becoming too much to just be honest oversights.

> There’s a recurring pattern here of OpenAI getting caught red handed doing bad things and then being all like “Oh it was just a misunderstanding

This is a very standard psychopathic behavior.

They (psychopaths) typically milk the willingness of their victims to accept the apology and move on to the very last drop.

Altman is a high-iq manipulative psychopath, there is a trail of breadcrumb evidence 10 miles long at this point.

Google "what does paul graham think of Sam Altman" if you want additional evidence.

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Post by swat535 »

mateus1 wrote: post #4

What surprises me about these stories surrounding openAI is how they apologize while lying and downplaying any blame. Do they expect anybody to believe they didn’t know about clawback clauses?

I mean it's not like anything is going to happen to them anyway.

People will continue to defend and worship Altman until their last drop of blood on HN and elsewhere, consumers will continue using GPT, businesses will keep hyping it up and rivers of cash will flow per status quo to his pockets like no tomorrow.

If one thoroughly wants to to make a change, one should support alternative open source models to remove our dependency on Altman and co; I fear for a day where such powerful technology is tightly controlled by OpenAI. We have already given up so much our computing freedom away to handful of companies, let's make sure AI doesn't follow. Honestly,

I wonder if we would ever have access to Linux, if it were to be invented today?

Re: Leaked OpenAI documents reveal aggressive tactics toward former employees

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Post by af3d »

It just seem petty, refusing to sign a simple document agreeing to not to trash your former employer (with whom you intend to continue to benefit from a shared interest in said company). It wasn't as if Altman was threatening to take back equity. Little more than a "just be nice, OK" and yet somehow that is asking too much?

Re: Leaked OpenAI documents reveal aggressive tactics toward former employees

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Post by dvaun »

HaZeust wrote: post #333
dvaun wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s pretty common in chatrooms, forums, etc. Been commonplace for at least two decades.

Eh, I mean in a post-smart keyboard era that will do it for you, and you either have to disable it OR purposely backspace and re-write it.

For anything on a phone, agreed. I have mine disabled so I can switch easily depending on where or who I’m talking with.
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