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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Mira Murati also "missed the king" and just delivered the keynote

Reid Hoffman provided some clear (at least to me) evidence for Mira's non-involvement → https://youtu.be/IgcUOOI-egk?si=FiSPt87v3pM3lfKt&t=851

Someone just above posted this, which shows that she did reach out to the board with concerns about his leadership style prior to the ouster: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/07/technology/openai-executi...

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Yeah, that’s Google’s reputation. Probably the most famous retirement home in the Bay.

but it's not true. Most people work a lot at G. Maybe some teams in search coast or something. But for every slacker I know 8 people who stay late a fair bit.

"Most" leaves a lot of room there.

Of course there are lots of hard workers at Google. You suggest only about 10% are slackers. But that's 10% of a -lot-.

I'm thinking there's a market for an Android app that let's one schedule limited roof space...

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Ilya knows how ChatGPT works. Any company that hires him will be able to catch up with ChatGPT.

I think what is probably very stressful about this space is virtually everyone knows how ChatGPT works. It is not a theoretical leap. It's actually fairly predictable how this shakes out, and OpenAI is pretty vulnerable. an LLM is a curiosity without user data, anyone with a big silo of data can put out something years behind frontier and still instantly see huge usage. No one wants to go to AI, they want AI to come…

No they don’t; if they did Google and Meta would have put out offerings that objectively beat OpenAI. However (barring temporary lapses) they’ve stayed ahead of the curve. Someone who constantly thinks low of their competition or people they hate is bound to fail.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Ilya knows how ChatGPT works. Any company that hires him will be able to catch up with ChatGPT.

I think what is probably very stressful about this space is virtually everyone knows how ChatGPT works. It is not a theoretical leap. It's actually fairly predictable how this shakes out, and OpenAI is pretty vulnerable. an LLM is a curiosity without user data, anyone with a big silo of data can put out something years behind frontier and still instantly see huge usage. No one wants to go to AI, they want AI to come…

Last time such a departure led to the creation of Anthropic (Dario Amodei), they even equalled GPT-4's performance

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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> a large grain of salt You mean a lump of salt? I've always wondered what the right word is to describe this amount of salt /!jk

I usually use "a few bags of salt" to imply that I don't trust the source.

perhaps a "mountain of salt" in this case?

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Nvidia should snatch him.

I have a feeling Apple will make a play for him. Apple is considered to be seriously lagging behind in ML. Just his name alone is probably enough for the time being - They can give him his own lab to do whatever he wants. Ilya will attract enough talent, at least some of whom will be willing to take up responsibility over commercial stuff in the coming years.

I have a feeling he would like to publish some stuff, and apple doesnt do that

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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More like they iced him for the last 6 months to ensure he wasn’t taking their lead to a competitor. He probably hasn’t touched anything in that time.

I have to say I'm a bit surprised "gardening leave" is not more of a norm in tech like it is in investment banking or finance.

It's already become the norm in Big Tech for layoffs to avoid filing WARN notices.
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