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Re: Alternative clouds are booming as companies seek cheaper access to GPUs

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Post by withinboredom »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #328
withinboredom wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If businesses go out of business from paying taxes, maybe they shouldn’t be in business. This isn’t a problem in the EU where countries border other countries and sales tax varies from 6-19-24%… so clearly this is a delusional problem that doesn’t actually exist.

> If businesses go out of business from paying taxes, maybe they shouldn’t be in business. This statement has always been BS. If you set the tax rate to a percentage of revenue which exceeds the business's margins, all businesses go out of business. "Maybe grocery stores shouldn't be in business" is so absurd that the statement seems designed to deliberately shut down reasoned debate by stunning people into silence o…

> If you set the tax rate to a percentage of revenue which exceeds the business's margins, all businesses go out of business.

Unless I misunderstand, isn't this EXACTLY what the US does to ensure certain businesses are or aren't profitable in their smaller jurisdictions? This is how they entice businesses to come to their cities/states and they even compete on giving bigger tax breaks. I assume they also do the exact opposite to keep out businesses they don't want.

> The issue here is that customers in Oregon are going to pay a lower price than customers in California because Oregon has lower sales tax and the tax is part of the price they pay.

They're already doing this ... this just makes it so you can do simple addition in your head while you walk around the store instead of throwing in some multiplication -- and if you live in a state where certain kinds of items have different tax rates, knowing what those tax rates are.

This isn't rocket science, I don't understand why you are making it seem so complicated.

Re: Alternative clouds are booming as companies seek cheaper access to GPUs

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Post by okrad »

Hikikomori wrote: post #160
superfrank wrote: post #115

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I've worked at companies that were spending 6 figures a month on AWS and we had dedicated AWS employees who helped us understand our bill and keep pricing in check. We also had GCP and Azure reps constantly reaching out to see if they could win us over by showing us how they could lower our bill. Overcharging enterprise customers for things they're not using is actually a risk to AWS as it gives customers a reason to…

Idk about that, it becomes worse at larger scales. We're at 7 figures weekly with obscene amounts of waste. But at that scale it's like hundreds of Aws bills to understand.

Is anyone dedicated to working on optimization?

Re: Alternative clouds are booming as companies seek cheaper access to GPUs

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

withinboredom wrote: post #331
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If businesses go out of business from paying taxes, maybe they shouldn’t be in business. This statement has always been BS. If you set the tax rate to a percentage of revenue which exceeds the business's margins, all businesses go out of business. "Maybe grocery stores shouldn't be in business" is so absurd that the statement seems designed to deliberately shut down reasoned debate by stunning people into silence o…

> If you set the tax rate to a percentage of revenue which exceeds the business's margins, all businesses go out of business. Unless I misunderstand, isn't this EXACTLY what the US does to ensure certain businesses are or aren't profitable in their smaller jurisdictions? This is how they entice businesses to come to their cities/states and they even compete on giving bigger tax breaks. I assume they also do the exact…

> Unless I misunderstand, isn't this EXACTLY what the US does to ensure certain businesses are or aren't profitable in their smaller jurisdictions?

Traditionally this is called fines rather than taxes. The ostensible purpose of general sales tax is not to bankrupt every grocery.

> this just makes it so you can do simple addition in your head while you walk around the store instead of throwing in some multiplication

Why do you have to do any math in your head at all? The register will do it for you at the end.

Re: Alternative clouds are booming as companies seek cheaper access to GPUs

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Post by withinboredom »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #333
withinboredom wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you set the tax rate to a percentage of revenue which exceeds the business's margins, all businesses go out of business. Unless I misunderstand, isn't this EXACTLY what the US does to ensure certain businesses are or aren't profitable in their smaller jurisdictions? This is how they entice businesses to come to their cities/states and they even compete on giving bigger tax breaks. I assume they also do the exact…

> Unless I misunderstand, isn't this EXACTLY what the US does to ensure certain businesses are or aren't profitable in their smaller jurisdictions? Traditionally this is called fines rather than taxes. The ostensible purpose of general sales tax is not to bankrupt every grocery. > this just makes it so you can do simple addition in your head while you walk around the store instead of throwing in some multiplication W…

Surely you’ve been poor with 40 bucks in your pocket and trying to get as many items as possible?

Re: Alternative clouds are booming as companies seek cheaper access to GPUs

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

withinboredom wrote: post #334
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Unless I misunderstand, isn't this EXACTLY what the US does to ensure certain businesses are or aren't profitable in their smaller jurisdictions? Traditionally this is called fines rather than taxes. The ostensible purpose of general sales tax is not to bankrupt every grocery. > this just makes it so you can do simple addition in your head while you walk around the store instead of throwing in some multiplication W…

Surely you’ve been poor with 40 bucks in your pocket and trying to get as many items as possible?

When the prices are listed pre-tax then use the amount of money you have in pre-tax dollars. If you have $40 and the sales tax is 7% then use your phone to divide your $40 by 1.07 and that's how much you have to spend. You don't have to do the multiplication for each item individually and items with different tax rates are typically entirely different classes of product which are sold in different stores.
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