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Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Post by lvspiff »

OJFord wrote: post #21
EVyesnoyesnoyes wrote: post #14

I would really love to see proper educational content from Meta but i bet this is not were the 'next money thing' is. Imagine a catalog of proper real life skills you can actually train reasonable good: - cooking - soldering - welding - Tons of woodworking things - ... You could also go to a lot of makers of tools and offer them to digitalize their products for them so someone can actually exercise with a cheap to su…

Where would that fit in between watching others do it on YouTube for entertainment, and doing it for real where you can hold (or eat) the result at the end?

This the gap that the porn websites will need to figure out how to fill for it to be a success.

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Post by jamilton »

MyFirstSass wrote: post #287
TulliusCicero wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VR headsets can be fun for some games, but the hardware and software still have a lot of maturing to do, it's not like smartphones where it feels very developed and there's not much more room for obvious growth/improvement.

Yesterday i was close to buying a Pico 4 (Cheaper non meta Quest 3 equivalent), then i realised there has been zero fully triple a games since my friend blew me away with a Half Life Alyx demo 4 years ago. I find it incredible there's still only 1 actual "serious" VR game - lots of people then recommended Skyrim VR, a game from 2011. Is VR gaming in an absolute standstill?

I think there are few to zero new AAA games, but I don't think that means VR gaming is at a standstill, or that there are no great, fun games.

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Post by sb8244 »

RobotToaster wrote: post #324

That's a bad name collision, "Horizon" is the name of the OS on the Nintendo 3ds and switch.

Eh, I don't think this is a bad name collision. Nintendo doesn't really talk about stuff like this publicly, and searching for it is pretty much reddit + hacker news threads.

I'm sure there's a lot of internal code name collisions.

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Post by bonton89 »

pavlov wrote: post #145

Shades of Apple licensing the Mac OS to clone hardware vendors in 1995 - 1997. It seems like Meta will be controlling the software experience quite closely, just like Apple did back in the day. There’s an important difference though: Apple made all their money on Mac hardware margins which the nimble clone vendors could undercut. Whereas for Meta, the Quest hardware has always been sold at breakeven or even as a loss…

> So there’s no kind of existential danger to Quest here, but it remains to be seen if the hardware licensees can bring anything relevant to the table either.

Why would I, as a potential hardware maker, wish to compete in a market where the existing main producer is a mega wealthy entity that is already dumping product below cost and is capable of doing so indefinitely?

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Post by xcdzvyn »

darkhorse13 wrote: post #330
RobotToaster wrote: post #324

That's a bad name collision, "Horizon" is the name of the OS on the Nintendo 3ds and switch.

Literally nobody knows this though. Even searching for "Horizon OS" only returns Meta stuff already.

Yeah - while I've never dived too deeply, I have modded my 3DS a fair bit and didn't know what the OS was codenamed. I've always just seen it called 3DS OS, native firm, etc.

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Post by [deleted] »

999900000999 wrote: post #90
TrueDuality wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not going to get HDMI (or at least not directly), but you can now get DisplayPort with many of the XR headsets. They're primarily using the alt-mode of USB-C as the cable is re-used for power as well.

Which headsets support this?

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Post by woopsn »

wvenable wrote: post #297
woopsn wrote: post #109

I know I'm fighting the overwhelming tide here, but what the hell is "mixed reality"? What is "the metaverse"? For that matter what is "artificial intelligence"? Stop trying to dazzle and just use words, if the technology is revolutionary then it will be. An automobile is not the magic carpet, a cell phone is not a soulmate, etc. Otherwise fuck it -- TV is virtual reality, getting high augmented reality, TI-84 calcul…

What the hell is "cloud computing"? What is "big data"? What is the "Internet of Things" or "SaaS" or "SEO"? For that matter what is "agile development"? Just use words to describe technology? Every time I want to say "cloud computing" do I have to say "a service where you use the internet to access software, storage, and processing power that's run on a bunch of server located far away in data center that are owned…

In business you would traditionally call that sort of arrangement "outsourcing". The Internet of Things is okay -- it could have been worse, The Omninet or something.

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Post by scrame »

mnahkies wrote: post #178
AzzyHN wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having a personal computer at home was a game-changer, though. "The Metaverse" has been around for a couple years now, and yet consumer VR (which has been around for eight years now) is still just a "gimmick", rather than a must-have. The IBM Personal Computer released in 1981. By 1989... yeah. iPhone came out in 2007. By 2015, smartphones ruled the world.

Before the iPhone we had palm pilots, blackberries, etc. I prefer to think of it as consumer VR simply hasn't had its iPhone moment yet

I'm still a little nonplussed. i don't like apple stuff, but did a couple demos at work with the vision elite or whatever its called.

Came away very impressed with the technology, but really didn't like having the damn thing strapped to my head for 15-20 minutes.

it reminds me of getting the original 3ds that could do some cool AR stuff, and could do 3d without glasses, but ultimately was an impressive tech demo that I mostly didnt use.

I already spend too much of my day in front of phones and monitors, I'm not sure if the answer is moving the screens closer to our eyes and shutting out more of the world.

industrial applications for sure can have a niche with this, but as a mass market device I think there's a long way to go, even if the experience looks good.

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Post by imzadi »

jimmySixDOF wrote: post #203
baby wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s crazy because if you try the Quest it’s quite insane how good it is already. If I were to guess what could give it an iPhone moment: - lighter/more comfortable - faster to get started when you put the headset on - more social experiences and event organized in VR - shorter time from headset on to hanging out with your friends in VR A number of years ago I convinced a bunch of my friends to buy the Quest after be…

There is a nee version of Catan for Quest 2/3

There is, but it is kind of crappy. It's crossplay, but not in a meaningful way. You can't create a room and share a room code. The best you can do is invite a friend, but only if they are on the same platform. They've never done anything to improve it or make it more player friendly. They released it and forgot about it.

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Post by mvkel »

crmd wrote: post #28

I wonder if this "opening" of the operating system is their way of putting the metaverse project out to pasture - analogous to donating it to the Apache Foundation - without admitting that the company burned $36 billion on a misadventure.

Agreed. Zuck on Dwarkesh's podcast definitely seemed to be doing some aggressive retconning, making it seem like AI was always the plan, and the metaverse never was. Of course the opposite was true.
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