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FDA clears first over-the-counter continuous glucose monitor

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Post by int_19h »

briandw wrote: post #250

I did this for fun using the veri.co service. It was interesting how little my diet immediately affected my blood sugar. Non diet things were much bigger. Do hard exercise -> spike. Take a hot shower -> spike. Fast for 48 hours -> blood sugar still rises in the morning. Walking was by far the most effective way to keep blood sugar down after a meal. Most of what I ate didn't cause a problem. However tend avoid sugar…

Both peanut butter and jelly have lots of sugar in them. Modern supermarket bread (in US) usually does, as well, and the carbs in it also turn into sugar quite readily right in your mouth.

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Post by beanjuiceII »

ijustlovemath wrote: post #316
bakedoatmeal wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the connection between being at risk of diabetes and hypoglycemia? Wouldn’t a pre-diabetic be very protected from hypoglycemia?

No, diabetes is fundamentally a lack of ability to control your blood sugar. This means you get lots of highs but also lots of lows. It's a common misconception that diabetes just means your blood sugar is always high; rather, your sugar is high because your body no longer controls it actively.

You don't get lows from diabetes

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Post by bsilvereagle »

autoexec wrote: post #145

It'd be pretty interesting to see that kind of data, but it looks like this product violates my policy on not buying hardware that requires a cell phone app to use, and my policy on keeping as much of my medical information as far away from my mobile device as possible. I'm not sure exactly who the app itself sells/leaks the data being collected to, but even having that kind of data on the device would make me uncomf…

For the Freestyle Libre 3, you can use it without an account. That does not mean that Abbott is not still sending your readings to the cloud, but at least your name is not attached to it.

It takes some work, but you can "liberate" your data from the app without the cloud account: https://frdmtoplay.com/freeing-glucose-data-from-the-freesty...

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Post by porkbeer »

TeaDrunk wrote: post #185
psychlops wrote: post #128

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It's also rare for a doctor to tell a person they are too fat and to lose weight. The assumption (and most cost effective solution) is that patients just want a prescription for something and be sent on their way. US healthcare is crisis focused, not health focused.

> It's also rare for a doctor to tell a person they are too fat and to lose weight. Genuinely curious... have you ever been an obese person? Every fat person I've known have told me they're constantly shamed about being fat in medical settings, some to the point where they actively avoid going to a doctor anymore because they've given up on anything beyond being told they're fat.

It its a complicating factor in almost every ailment known to humankind. A doctor would be negligent not to address it. There is no healthy level of obesity.

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Post by porkbeer »

watwut wrote: post #198
Aurornis wrote: post #111

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> Fasting is problematic to the medical industry because it is zero cost. No, fasting is problematic because people don't like it. Health conscious people don't understand how much resistance the average patient has to advice about lifestyle modifications, or how difficult it is to get patients to adhere to recommended lifestyle changes. A good example is sleep apnea and CPAP machines: In theory, a CPAP machine shoul…

Disordered eating is more dangerous then obesity.

Both are worse than eating right. It's not a binary.

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Post by 0_____0 »

mikepurvis wrote: post #319
jorvi wrote: post #310

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I'm not even diabetic but they always pre-check your blood during blood / plasma donating. I would say it doesn't even register as a pinprick and feels more like the percussive slap of a tiny elastic band.

Ha, I would say quite the opposite, that the finger prick is my least favourite part of giving blood— it's ironic that taking a few drops could be that much worse than the big honking needle which draws an entire pint, but I guess fingertips just have a lot of nerve endings.

Not sure if the blood center people have a protocol for this but in athletic labs you can sample from the earlobe to take blood lactate readings

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Post by TeaDrunk »

porkbeer wrote: post #334
TeaDrunk wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's also rare for a doctor to tell a person they are too fat and to lose weight. Genuinely curious... have you ever been an obese person? Every fat person I've known have told me they're constantly shamed about being fat in medical settings, some to the point where they actively avoid going to a doctor anymore because they've given up on anything beyond being told they're fat.

It its a complicating factor in almost every ailment known to humankind. A doctor would be negligent not to address it. There is no healthy level of obesity.

So... you get my confusion and skepticism at this claim that it is "rare" for doctors to bring up obesity to an obese patient!

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Post by dhoe »

znpy wrote: post #88
anonfornoreason wrote: post #56

I would recommend anyone to experiment with this. I did, and found out I was more glucose sensitive than I expected. This led me to get more broad labs done, with which I was able to find additional treatable issues that are likely the cause. If I hadn't done this, I would have found out via symptoms years later, after irreversible damage had already been done. You are your only medical advocate, no one else is going…

I'd really love to be able to do that (experimenting) but i'm in the EU and haven't looked at the possibilities yet (i'm not diabetic). However i recently saw a video of a woman that carried a glucose monitor (even if she didn't need one) as part of a study (she volunteered) and was able to correlate her mood and her weight take/loss with sugar intake. I'm very curious about this. I've started a diet recently and aft…

I'm in the Netherlands and just bought a Freestyle Libre 3 from https://www.dia-centrum.nl/. It didn't require a prescription and was easy to set up and you can get the data out of Freestyle's website, as a CSV download if I remember correctly.

I had a doctor comment that he'd never seen anybody wearing one just out of interest, and he was slightly condescending about it.

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Post by necovek »

necovek wrote: post #330
mangoman wrote: post #166

I recently had an unusual health event that resulted in me passing out. My wife, who is a physician, thought it might be hypoglycemia, since i'm at high risk for diabetes. She found a super friendly endocrinologist who put me on a CGM for two weeks. I never hit the hypoglycemia range during those two weeks, so it didn't really explain what my issue... but honestly the data was SUPER interesting. Just observing the va…

I personally wouldn't mind having the data if a need comes up, but this is simply overtracking for no particular purpose. Basically, our bodies go through much "turmoil" over the course of any day, and watching over one too many parameters is like getting hooked to TV or a video game. Generally, medical science can mostly tell you what averages or most common patterns are, so if you do not line up with them and don't…

And reading further, there is evidence of people getting worked up about what are not problematic readings in this very thread.

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Post by veryfancy »

bakedoatmeal wrote: post #314
mangoman wrote: post #166

I recently had an unusual health event that resulted in me passing out. My wife, who is a physician, thought it might be hypoglycemia, since i'm at high risk for diabetes. She found a super friendly endocrinologist who put me on a CGM for two weeks. I never hit the hypoglycemia range during those two weeks, so it didn't really explain what my issue... but honestly the data was SUPER interesting. Just observing the va…

What is the connection between being at risk of diabetes and hypoglycemia? Wouldn’t a pre-diabetic be very protected from hypoglycemia?

Wondered this too. Diabetics are at risk for hypoglycemia because of the insulin they take, not the diabetes itself. Maybe metformin for a prediabetic could have this effect?
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