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Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

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Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

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Sure, but that's Scary(tm), because an unexpected viral skeet is going to cost you a lot of money. In this case I'd expect almost all video to be fraudulent--either in terms of pirated egress or in terms of disinfomation scams.

Obviously you should choose a hosting provider that doesn't allow bandwidth overages.

In such a case you absolutely should! At the same time, it makes sense that bsky, as the protocol stewards, might not want to make that pit too easy to fall into.

Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

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So what data goes and what data is blocked by transitioning away from the main server? I am assuming a person's own posts would come along, but what about conversations with other people, or group discussions or things you have followed? Any other features that would work / things you could see if still connected but no be available if you were federated and banned? I think fbook has a hidden 'export your posts to WP…

> So what data goes and what data is blocked by transitioning away from the main server?

Nothing. It is fully transparent to everyone. Your followers won't notice, and you won't notice. Everything Just Works.

Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

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I think everything you said was fair, but you also mentioned Twitter being a conservative cesspool, and a lot these features like federation and composable moderation are designed to help prevent the whole "rich guy buys the company and turns it into something you don't like" scenario.

It's really unfortunate that the tech companies set the precedent in the first place by pushing hard political agendas into their policies and moderation biases. If it was truly neutral in the first place we would not be having this conversation. All the people complaining only now about Twitter doing this are part of the problem.

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Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

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Again, please keep in mind that this is my perception of others' arguments, and so may have some bias. I am going to try and counteract that with my wording here, but maybe someone who holds this position can drop by and give their own summary. I have seen two main complaints: * This is opt-out not opt-in, and I don't like that. * BlueSky is bad because it is run by a company (sometimes with a suggestion that Jack Do…

Anything run by someone like Jack Dorsey should be away from something like fediverse. He literally killed third party ecosystem on Twitter after multiple times begging developers to come and revive the platform. Without those third party apps Twitter would not have been anywhere close to the size it reached. Yes, he, Dorsey, did it. I don’t should discount that one bit! Should we give him or people like him another…

BlueSky isn't run by Jack Dorsey. I'm not a fan of him either. Luckily, he's doing nostr instead.

Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

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Even if it may be simple in some areas, it doesn't handle edge cases such as https://github.com/caddyserver/caddy/issues/1632 in other areas out of the box unlike other server software.

you have been repeatedly posting this incredibly niche complaint for years at this point

I have only brought this up once before on HN and it was over 2 years ago. Not adopting a new project because it is missing something niche is an extremely common reason why people stick with tried and true, mature software. I do not see anything wrong with pointing out niche issues because to some people these issues are important. Because it's broken out of the box it is allowing people who aren't aware of this problem to continue to setup broken sites. Even caddyserver.com. is broken.

Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

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Nah. Consent is a thing and this wasn't consensual. Yes, the posts were publicly accessible, but the intent of posting to Mastodon isn't to have it show up automatically on another network. It's technically possible, yes. It's still a dick thing to do and it pissed people off. And again, it wasn't about Bluesky in particular. If Google announced that they were going to ingest all Mastodon content and post it in a new…

>If Google announced that they were going to ingest all Mastodon content and post it in a new Google Groups kind of thing, they'd be pretty understandably upset about that, too. exactly like they did with usenet without any issue?

Well, at least they paid money for Deja. Slight difference no?

Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

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Hey HN, the engineering team at Bluesky is especially excited to get to this point! We're happy to help answer questions and help anyone trying to run their own PDS host. Things should work pretty well for self-hosters right now, but we're standing by to help if there are any problems. Technical details and the installer are in the GitHub repo https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds And we're on Discord available to he…

Unrelated to engineering but the recent rebrand to a dead butterfly logo[1][2][3] may be off brand for a platform wishing to communicate a more open, social Internet built on first principles and scientific rigor. [1] https://www.emilydamstra.com/please-enough-dead-butterflies/ [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14460013 [3] https://bsky.social/about/blog/12-21-2023-butterfly

> built on first principles and scientific rigor.

Are you joking? This is private enterprise we're talking about. We'll all die before this company or anything similar is built on "scientific rigor" unless it directly relates to their profit margins.

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