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Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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When people realized anyone with a sophisticated police scanner could listen in on cordless (and then early cellular) phone calls, it forced manufacturers to actually implement a bare-minimum level of security on those devices. I hope this pushes more manufacturers to switch to rolling-code algorithms (like the key fob your car uses), in place of simpler, less secure codes that can be captured and replayed.

In the late 1980's I had this VCR that would allow me to tune into over the air TV channels in the eastern US.

Being an elementary aged student poking around, I realized I could use the tuner to listen in to telephone calls somehow. Granted, I lived on a farm and there were probably only two dozen houses within a mile radius of our home; the nearest being a quarter mile away. I had a small rabbit ear antenna on the back of my CRT TV that could have been plugged into the VCR.

I don't recall the actual hardware I had.

I never figured out if I was listening to cordless phones (seems they would not be powerful enough to reach me), cell phone signals (there were few cell phones in my poor rural community I assume but I guess there could have been travelers on a nearby highway), or CB radio signals from truckers on the highway (these seemed like mundane person to person conversations; not trucker conversations). Perhaps it could have been long distance HAM operators though they didn't seem to use any HAM protocols while speaking.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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My son was just arrested for using this in his hacking club at high school. Be careful if you have kids with one. According to witnesses in the room, he was showing it to kids in his hacking club and they all thought it was just turning off Apple phones in the classrooom. Apparently, it turned off phones including several teachers in adjoining classrooms. Anyways. The police came to the school and arrested him and ar…

So, in San Fran, people break into cars and steal from stores, and they are not even arrested, but kids who are into electronics are being charged as the biggest criminals. It reminds me of the girl [0] who was into Chemistry and was charged with terrorism. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBhMTXnw6xU

It's no surprise the cops like dealing with the people who won't even bother to fight back.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I went on Temu and bought Too bad. I was sincerely hoping nobody would buy anything from them so they would die.

Amazon costs twice as much, and Aliexpress takes twice as long to ship. I have an adblocker installed, so I haven't experienced the annoying ads people are mentioning. I don't install apps when a website is available, so it's not a a spyware concern. If Temu is more evil that the other main two options, I have yet to see an explanation.

AliExpress gotten so expensive too, Temu seems far cheaper (tho lacking lots of more interesting items)

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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post #295

My son was just arrested for using this in his hacking club at high school. Be careful if you have kids with one. According to witnesses in the room, he was showing it to kids in his hacking club and they all thought it was just turning off Apple phones in the classrooom. Apparently, it turned off phones including several teachers in adjoining classrooms. Anyways. The police came to the school and arrested him and ar…

I find really excessive having the police involved in those things, specially when are child doing dumb things that hurts nobody. I done a worse "hacking" actions when I was 12 and I were grounded without any access to any electronic device outside TV at lunch/dinner

40+ years ago I did some dumb things in school as well. But in all cases I got punished by my father. Not because I hurt somebody, but because I wasted a lot of people's time who had to deal with consequences from my actions. I didn't respect other people and their time and it was enough for my father to punish me. And he had every right to do so.

When I was a teacher some time ago some kids did a dumb things as well – they "hacked" schools' computers by putting some really sticky putty under keyboard keys. I wasn't allowed to punish these kids by ordering to clean it after themselves and parents agreed to pay for a new keyboards after weeks of "discussions" with lawyers involved.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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post #295

My son was just arrested for using this in his hacking club at high school. Be careful if you have kids with one. According to witnesses in the room, he was showing it to kids in his hacking club and they all thought it was just turning off Apple phones in the classrooom. Apparently, it turned off phones including several teachers in adjoining classrooms. Anyways. The police came to the school and arrested him and ar…

As someone with two and a half -- yes, and a half -- felonies for computer trespass from when I was in highschool, at 17, freshly 17, in 2003...I feel for you. Longer story, obviously. But no one knew how to deal with the situation, so "Something has to be done!"

In the words of Governor William J La Petomane, one of Mel Brooks' characters from Blazing Saddles, "We have to keep our phony baloney jobs gentlemen!"

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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post #295

My son was just arrested for using this in his hacking club at high school. Be careful if you have kids with one. According to witnesses in the room, he was showing it to kids in his hacking club and they all thought it was just turning off Apple phones in the classrooom. Apparently, it turned off phones including several teachers in adjoining classrooms. Anyways. The police came to the school and arrested him and ar…

Those are the actions of a de-facto police state.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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post #302
post #295

My son was just arrested for using this in his hacking club at high school. Be careful if you have kids with one. According to witnesses in the room, he was showing it to kids in his hacking club and they all thought it was just turning off Apple phones in the classrooom. Apparently, it turned off phones including several teachers in adjoining classrooms. Anyways. The police came to the school and arrested him and ar…

Sorry to hear about this. You probably shouldn’t post anymore about this for legal reasons. For other readers, I’d be curious the jurisdiction. The specific app that can turn off iPhones requires the “unleashed” firmware I believe. Also, regarding legality, if you are DoSing cell phones, you are creating a hazard where users are no longer able to contact emergency services, and this is the most likely avenue of charg…

And so do reinforced concrete walls, they block the signal and thus prevent emergency services from being contacted too. And so many other things. Radio communications are unreliable by default. Someone's prank should not result in criminal charges unless tangible harm has occurred.

Re: Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, in San Fran, people break into cars and steal from stores, and they are not even arrested, but kids who are into electronics are being charged as the biggest criminals. It reminds me of the girl [0] who was into Chemistry and was charged with terrorism. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBhMTXnw6xU

It's no surprise the cops like dealing with the people who won't even bother to fight back.

Because the f**ing human species is a predator, and we go after weakness.
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