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In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by vehemenz »

JonathanBeuys wrote: post #105
nacs wrote: post #94

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You're literally putting the password in plain-text into the (unencrypted) browser bookmarks (and also into your terminal where it's likely logged to your ~/.bash_history). That is the bigger security issue you have, not how Firefox is handling the display of the URL. If anything, Firefox is highlighting your insecure security practice.

I'm not typing them in my terminal. I have scripts that automate my workflow. And part of it is logging me into websites. Regarding storing them in plain text: That's not much different from ssh keys. When someone can read your ssh key, they can log in as you. If you know a better way to automatically log a user into a website, let us know!

Every modern password manager has this capability built in.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by goku12 »

voakbasda wrote: post #123
ncgl wrote: post #92

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This is a funny comment - why'd you leave Firefox to have to come back to it?

If GP is anything like me, they used Firefox before Chrome was released. The Mozilla/Netscape suite that spawned Firefox is older than Google itself. For a time, Firefox performed worse than a rabid dog. Chrome ate their lunch and gained market share fast. I and many of my colleagues switched around that time.

> Chrome ate their lunch and gained market share fast.

That isn't the main reason they gained market share fast. It's sabotage: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1116871245021220875.html

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by ferbivore »

babypuncher wrote: post #293
JohnTHaller wrote: post #190

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Firefox doesn't. But publishers de-prioritizing or being hostile to Firefox does. I keep Chrome up for VirusTotal to scan PortableApps.com releases. In Firefox, it'll throw broken ReCaptcha prompts over and over and over after a certain number of scans per day (pick the thing, next, pick the thing, next x10, etc). And that's with all extensions disabled. Possibly related: VirusTotal and ReCaptcha are owned by Google.

When these sites break I prefer to spam their support or just not use them. If they won't support firefox then they don't deserve my patronage.

It's not patronage if you don't pay. Google would rather not have you as a user if it costs them any amount of time to support you. The relationship here is adversarial on both sides and pretending otherwise doesn't help anyone.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

wg0 wrote: post #307
bad_user wrote: post #236

> "Privacy Firefox is the only major browser not built by a company that makes money from advertising" This is BS. Firefox is funded entirely by Google's Ads. Even if you donate to Mozilla, those donations won't be invested in Firefox. At this point, all 3 major browser engines are funded by ads. You may argue that Mozilla doesn't directly make money from advertising, but that's irrelevant because they'll never do an…

That's another Lala land of obliviousness. Browser is a complex piece of software that needs effort. Users are not paying for it and those who will pay for itthen will probably require access to those users, for sure. Firefox is a dwindling piece of software and maybe they themselves should take some responsibility of where it is heading today. User adoption is merit driven and not mission or ideology driven. EDIT: T…

I want to pay for Firefox. I do not want to contribute to the Mozilla CEO's outrageous US$7M compensation package. How do I do that?

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by VancouverMan »

shawnz wrote: post #137
xedrac wrote: post #76

I use Firefox exclusively, and I love the Rust language that took shape at Mozilla, but it makes me sad to see HN censor comments that point out Mozilla's despicable behavior when they fired Brandon Eich because he didn't espouse gay marriage.

Just to be clear, it is readers themselves who flag and bury comments on HN

Submissions about Firefox, Mozilla, or Rust that get a lot of comments often remind me how I wish this site had a setting like "showdead", except it disabled all moderation.

With that setting enabled, there would be no grayed-out comments, no dead comments, no reordering, and no whatever else might be done based on a comment's ratings.

It's annoying how what are often perfectly reasonable comments are obscured or hidden, and it's also annoying having to work around that obstruction just to read them.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by flkiwi »

I would happily switch, but Firefox’s tabs are not sufficient for 2023. Vertical tabs are essential for me, and none of the Firefox plugin-based workarounds come anywhere close to Edge (and Brave). I prefer Firefox as a browser, but as a tool it’s growing more and more outdated.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by butterfi »

behnamoh wrote: post #199
culi wrote: post #176

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Yeah but that's not on Mozilla in any way. That's just Google's anti-competitive practices. Firefox refuses to jump on Google's attempts to ban adblockers with Manifest V3 so Google wants to punish them

What matters for the end user is the experience. If using FF will lead to a poor experience on certain websites, then why recommend it? Do people honestly believe that if they keep recommending FF, people will magically switch to FF and Google will be forced to stop its anti-competitive practices?

If you want an experience that includes privacy violations, knock yourself out. Personally, as an end user, that is exactly what I don’t want, which is why I use Firefox

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by realusername »

bradly wrote: post #242
krastanov wrote: post #85

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Firefox out of the box indeed does not cause broken websites. However, the demographic of this forum probably will use Firefox with "Multi-Account Containers", "Temporary Containers", "uBlock Origin", and a few more. These are amazing for privacy and productivity, but will occasionally cause broken websites. Source: I am a Firefox-first user who occasionally uses plugin-less Chrome because the aforementioned plugins…

> Firefox out of the box indeed does not cause broken websites. There are definitely websites that don't work with Firefox out of the box. Just one example that annoys me is https://mtgarena-support.wizards.com . "Firefox users: Firefox's Enhanced Tracking Protection may interfere with Sign In. Temporarily disable it in Firefox Privacy Settings to load the sign in screen."

It's probably third party cookies but not for long, Chrome will also remove them next year so they will have to do something about it.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by robertoandred »

ElongatedMusket wrote: post #2

The microsecond manifest v3 is forced upon me, I will switch. And I'll be bringing my entire family tree and friends along with me! What does everyone think about LibreWolf vs mainline FF? It reminds me of Waterfox: https://librewolf.net

> LibreWolf

Why are FOSS names always so bad...

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