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Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Damn 2014?? My years are all skewed nowadays.

I think he's in the minority because everyone I knew had unlimited SMS by the mid-00s before the iPhone was released.

The unlimited plans existed, but it was more expensive than the limited plan I used, since I didn't go over the limit.

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As an Android user, it'd be nice if replying "No" to "Do you want RCS?" meant "Never ask me again" and wasn't just interpreted as "ask me again in next week and every week thereafter".

Yup it's completely disingenuous on Google's part.

Some people don't have data but Google doesn't care, they force clueless users to enable RCS anyway and then they're on their own to figure out why they don't receive messages anymore!

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If you socially exclude someone because they care about the color of text message bubbles, don't you care at least as much as they do? More, probably, because if they just mention it and you block them, that's disproportionate.

I hate racists and hating racists doesnt make me a bad person. I hate people who judge others based on $1000 dollar Veblen goods. Also I make more money than them, so I'm very aware that the person who cares about bubbles is being exploited by Apple's psychology and marketing department. So... maybe I don't hate them, maybe we should feel sorry for them. Or maybe we need to hate them because its a deterrent against c…

First, just an aside: you don't have to hate anyone. It doesn't make you a bad person to hate others, but you could be living better, that's for sure. The thing is, it usually mainly impacts the hater, making them unhappy and angry.

But your analogy doesn't fit here... the issue with blue and green bubbles is the social pressure to have the "better" bubble color, to show you're part of the "better" group. That is, the negative social pressure comes from the threat of social exclusion via lower social standing. But the previous poster is also threatening social exclusion, but a more complete exclusion, and based on nearly the same thing. So it would be more like showing your objection to racism by expressing racist ideas or taking racist actions. Doesn't make sense, of course. That's my point.

Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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As an Android user, it'd be nice if replying "No" to "Do you want RCS?" meant "Never ask me again" and wasn't just interpreted as "ask me again in next week and every week thereafter".

why don't you want RCS?

For me, SMS is solely for receiving 2FA codes and sending message to my provider to check how much data allowance I have left for the month. I use Whatsapp for messages to people.

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The next significant step would be opening up iMessage and I'm pretty sure that Apple already has implemented most of it. Otherwise, they cannot realistically follow the DMA timeline in the worst case where EU designate iMessage as a gatekeeper.

That's never going to happen for two main reasons. The first one is that, despite the EU’s blatant attempt to carve the rules around the likes of Apple while simultaneously trying to shield EU companies, they've overestimated the amount of iMessage users, excluding iMessage from the DMA rules. The other one, which is more important in this discussion, is that the EU kept the definitions of services rather broad to th…

> That's never going to happen for two main reasons.

I wouldn't say "never". DMA is inherently political at its heart and designed to target US big techs precisely. Apple is not immune and EU gave the regulation board enough flexibility to target all of US big techs. Apple knows this and they decided to support RCS for this exact reason to gain public supports.

> The other one, which is more important in this discussion, is that the EU kept the definitions of services rather broad to the degree that Apple’s adoption of RCS will automatically fulfill the interoperability requirement.

EU already has defined iMessage as a separate core platform service from iOS and Apple hasn't argued against it because it would give them a chance to exclude iMessage from the scope of the regulation. Hence, OS level support for RCS won't cover iMessage if it's also designated as a gatekeeper.

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Why do you think that blue represents E2EE and not simply iMessage? If data isn't available and the iPhone sends an SMS, like you mentioned, the bubble is green, but this doesn't necessarily have anything to do with encryption. For example, the satellite SOS messages are represented as gray. It seems more like the color represents the transport.

Because blue means iMessage and iMessage means E2EE. Grey and Green means not encrypted. Simple.

Green means cellular, blue means internet. This same color distinction is used in other places in the UI, such as control center and settings.

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this is meant to hold back regulators, just for a couple more years, so, for a couple more years it will be green bubbles android, blue bubbles iOS. The teenage market share is 87% currently. just a couple more years is all they need.

There isn't enough discussion about the impending Apple phone monopoly in the US. It's inevitable at this point.

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Yay, more third world pressure to bring ios down to android's level. What's next? My iphone coming preinstalled with whatsapp with 5 norton antivirus refund rooms already prejoined?

It's not "third world pressure", what the heck?

Besides, I think you mean UP to Android's level.

It's pressure to adhere to standards. Maybe you can't see it, but it's a good thing.

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What a surprise! I'm quite sure RCS bubbles will be green though, and that's still going to be enough of a difference when it comes to teen groups and even adult dating. The EU may mandate interoperability, but I don't see them mandating bubble color...

I thought this bubble color thing was a joke but is it seriously something women look at? Why?

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