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the amount of ads on youtube has grown exponentially and i highly doubt this was because of profitability issues.

In a hypothetical world without adblockers, wouldn't YouTube need to show a lower amount of ads per person to make the same amount of revenue?

That trickle down fever dream has been on repeat for ages now but still hasn’t come to fruition.

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Leeching implies that there is party that is being inflicted damage. Alphabet makes $60B profit a year.

The party that is being inflicted damage are the creators who don't make any money from producing content for you.

YouTube pays most creators zero, treats them like serfs, and allows people to steal any money they might make if some rando says that the channel is allegedly using their song with little recourse and no interaction with humans. Creators live in fear of a strike against their account, that's wrong. I don't have too much sympathy for Google. Google only cares about advertisers and don't give a crap about creators. I'd rather (and do) pay creators directly.

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You're not just paying Youtube/Google for the ad, you're paying the content creators as well. You can always buy the music directly from artists if you don't like Spotify's revenue model. Or ditch Spotify and use the free Youtube Music subscription you get with premium, maybe combined it'd be worth the $14 to you.

Youtube music is actually pretty remarkable. I'm a jazz musician. One of the remarkable features of YouTube is that if you're looking for a particular recording of a jazz tune (e.g. Lou Donaldson's The Masquerade Is Over, on the Blues Walk album, 1953), it's just there. The depth of the collection is quite amazing. And as an added bonus, if you subscribe you get no ads on youtube! :-P

If YT music is so great they could make it optional instead of making me pay for a second music streaming service that I don’t want or need.

I hope they get a big fat EU fine for (illegal here) joint sales.

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post #106

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At this point, I consider blocking ads to be a moral obligation. By giving in, you enable Youtube to abuse users further

I have zero problem paying for premium. I like it when the products I like, you know, survive.

If YouTube dies another party will take their place and hopefully learn from their mistakes. But YouTube won’t fail because it’s backed by Google and they’ll squeeze their monopoly for all that it’s worth.

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post #218

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I'd buy it, but $14/m is way too much for no ads imo. Especially since this is a "free" service where the justification for me paying X$/m is because i have to offset the ads i would have otherwise watched. You're (Youtube, not OP hah) telling me i provided $14/m in ad revenue? Of course not. I'd insta-buy if i could just pay to skip any ads i actually would have watched. Give me a stat showing me how many ads i miss…

> You're telling me i provided $14/m in ad revenue? Of course not. Do you really think Google just set the price arbitrarily? That would be surprising. My impression has always been that ad free tiers are actually less profitable for video providers.

> Do you really think Google just set the price arbitrarily?

No, not arbitrarily. But that $14/mo bundles in the price of other services as well, namely Youtube Music. Youtube Music doesn't cost Google nothing, so obviously $14/mo isn't what they're getting from people in ad revenue. A comparable music subscription from spotify costs $11/mo, so subtract that from $14/mo. $3/mo is a fair estimate for what they expect to get for showing ads.

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At this point, I consider blocking ads to be a moral obligation. By giving in, you enable Youtube to abuse users further

I think this is a bad take, because YouTube is a rare web service that allows you to just pay them directly. Then you aren’t the product anymore

They still data mine every move you make.

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post #314

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And no ads in between of meditation videos No ads when you are driving - since you can't skip them

Maybe don’t watch YouTube while you’re driving?

YouTube is used as Spotify in a India. I usually get 50 per cent of my music from YouTube and rest 50 from Spotify

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At this point, I consider blocking ads to be a moral obligation. By giving in, you enable Youtube to abuse users further

Avoiding using services whose business practices you disagree with feels like a bigger moral obligation but what do I know?

That would be a fine argument of Google did not own the long-form general topic diy online video space. Since they do and there are no alternatives they can suck it until they (if ever) improve their business practices.

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Maybe it's just A/B testing, but I got the "3 strikes and no more video playback" thing, which this DOM element blocking doesn't work around it seems :( After years of procrastinating, I'm finally gonna get around to setting up a basic homelab to run pihole. Thanks, youtube execs and bean counters, for kicking my lazy ass into gear on this! In a way, I kinda wish that ads worked as well as youtube suggestions. If one…

Swapped to Brave browser finally, it worked out of box to block YouTube adblock-blocker.

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post #102

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All this performative righteousness is only going to end up hurting your cause in the long term. If a major site offers an ad-free option, and people refuse to take it, what does it tell the executives? What does it tell other publishers who are considering their monetization options? How do you think a business should respond to users that neither refuse to watch ads nor pay, can't be bargained with (see above), but…

They still mine your data…

Are you complaining about ads or data? The only way to avoid giving them data is to not use them, which also lets you avoid their ads and you don’t need a subscription. Simple solution.
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