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Re: Blocked by Cloudflare

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Post by 100110011001 »

warrenm wrote: post #296
sophacles wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get it. They offer a service that that people choose to sign up for and take active steps to use. I don't see how that's an attack. Honestly I'm still trying to understand who is being attacked. Like is it an attack on the site owner - are you saying cloudflare is extorting them or something? That seems unlikely but I agree that would be a form of attack... it also doesn't seem to be what you're saying. Is it…

They block and/or slowdown over 20% of the internet How can you not see that as anything but an "attack"?

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Re: Blocked by Cloudflare

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Post by 100110011001 »

warrenm wrote: post #239
sophacles wrote: post #230

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In what way is it an attack? (I know what a mitm is, I'm not asking you to explain that - I'm pretty conversant in the concept of a proxy, I'm asking you to explain why it's an attack specifically)

they block and/or slowdown vast swaths of the internet if that's not an "attack", I don't know what is

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Re: Blocked by Cloudflare

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Post by MichaelZuo »

warrenm wrote: post #295
MichaelZuo wrote: post #251

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> I'm referring to your comment that he quoted - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37050359 Maybe you're misremembering - but you wrote it :) 'johnklos' did not quote a single word from anyone in the comment I linked, nor a single word from my original comment you linked, let alone an entire phrase, and that was the only response he made from what I can see. Are you confusing him with a different HN user? You don'…

I have to believe you're attempting (but failing) to gaslight me you wrote: "it does seem to indicate that IPv6 is mostly pointless for human users for exactly this reason" ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37050359 ) he wrote: "If you think IPv6 is mostly pointless, I think you're unaware of the fact that a significant majority of phones already use IPv6 most of the time they're on cellular" ( https://news.ycom…

What are you on about?

There's no sign of 'johnklos' quoting me as you claim. It literally appears in his own words, and he even wrote it in a manner that could not possibly be confused with my style of writing. Just check my recent comment history?

Frankly, it's just impossible for there to be a 17 word phrase in that comment that can be interpreted as a quotation, even by a teenager who only started learning English.

And in any case, you are free to contact dang, or any other HN user you trust, and ask them to double check whether such a thing occurred.

You can also review HN norms, other examples of HN users quoting each other and explicitly acknowledging it, the popular dictionary definitions of 'quote', etc...

Since your HN account is nearly 11 years old I'm fairly confident you know various methods to verify these things to a reasonable degree of certainty.

Re: Blocked by Cloudflare

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Post by [deleted] »

afavour wrote: post #186
brandon wrote: post #184

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I don't mean to support or refuse the author's main points or analysis, but you might like to know that the Chrome team is currently working towards shipping the Topics API. I have strong opinions about it but I will try not to editorialize. My high-level understanding is that they're going to run an ML model over your browsing history (locally on your device) to build a list of "topics" that you care about. Sites yo…

How is that relevant to the topic?

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Re: Blocked by Cloudflare

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Post by foxylad »

Off topic - but how can Cloudflare block access to an internal website when accessed by via VPN? And if CF has some kind of request verification API that the internal server is using, why would you use it for an internal resource?

Re: Blocked by Cloudflare

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Post by hkt »

amadeuspagel wrote: post #286
Zak wrote: post #266

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Walking into real places with a mask on has been normal for the past three years.

OK, but not with a balaclava.

Will a fake nose, moustache and glasses do?

(My point? Characterising anonymity with an item of clothing associated with paramilitaries has associations that don't need to be there.)

Re: Blocked by Cloudflare

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Post by Dah00n »

ThrowAway1922A wrote: post #288
warrenm wrote: post #173

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funny enough... I called out Cloudflare for the pariah it is, and got downvoted and flagged

People immediately assume if you dislike CF you’re defending one site in particular and once they do that no further discussion is possible.

I'm out of the loop I guess. Which site would that be?

Re: Blocked by Cloudflare

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Post by jojobas »

acedTrex wrote: post #151
bradley13 wrote: post #78

Anecdote: For my programming classes, one example I use is a simple browser. It doesn't do CSS or Javacript, so display is primitive, but it works. On some sites. Many sites, especially the big ones, see that it's an unknown browser, and refuse to send content. Probably they think it's a bot. But even if it were, what's wrong with bots, as long as they're well-behaved? What kind of closed web have we let the megacorp…

I mean, the site gets to decide if it will service a request. theres no requirement for a service to respond to everyone.

This is the tech equivalent of "we don't serve your kind here", and limits any attempt at competition.

Re: Blocked by Cloudflare

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Post by jojobas »

krono wrote: post #80

The amount of times Cloudflare is making me sit through their 15 to 30 second "checking your connection" page is insane. For people going through life with ADHD such as myself, the impact of all these delays and disruptions throughout the day can be severe. Despite being properly medicated this measure is absolutely debilitating and makes for a dreadful and very taxing online experience.

That's typically deployed on sites under heavy DDOS attacks. Nobody wants for their users to see that, they are forced to.

Re: Blocked by Cloudflare

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Post by 3np »

adammartinetti wrote: post #231
waithuh wrote: post #208

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I dont know which type of Firefox you use, but any reasonably tuned browser (in the privacy sense) fails your systems. I literally didnt have a single instance of passing them without handing over a pixel perfect fingerprint.

Would you be able to send me a rayID of a failed challenge so I can take a loop? It sounds like you can use https://gitlab.com/users/sign_in to generate one. You can either reply in the comments with the ID (no PII), or email me at amartinetti at cloudflare.com and I'd love to dig into it. We're building Turnstile because we want to make challenges a better system than CAPTCHA. It sounds like for you it's worse, and…

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