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Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by xypage »

brian_cloutier wrote: post #157
PurpleRamen wrote: post #94

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> The initial distribution of wld will be much more fair than the initial distribution of any other token or currency I know of. That is the value of the biometric. And how is this not a lie when it's so easy to game? It's only shifting the distribution from people who were running a computer early to people who buy biometrics early, steal biometrics or find ways to fake biometrics. And even worse, if you were once r…

I disagree that it's so easy to game but maybe you know more than me? I'm not sure what you mean by buying biometrics early, stealing them seems very uneconomical, and faking them is an engineering challenge which seems quite difficult. > And even worse, if you were once robbed of your biometrics in that system, you have lost it forever as I understand it? Is there even any way to get back what was robbed from you? T…

It seems you didn't read the article, it specifically talks about people are already buying accounts for $30 or less to be able to make accounts in areas where you're not allowed to register.

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Post by Nursie »

nemo44x wrote: post #286
Nursie wrote: post #268

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Or capitalism will fuck the environment so thoroughly before we get there that the above can’t transpire.

Maybe, maybe not - but that's sort of the point. It doesn't really matter since there's no alternative. Accelerationism isn't even a conscience choice per-se - it's a phenomenon that is a product of technological advancement of which Capitalism is the vehicle for. If anything, the only conscious choice is to not resist it as that's ultimately futile since it can't be stopped. Well, unless we went full Teddy K, which…

There are multiple alternatives, this is just one particular dystopia you’ve foreseen.

Capitalism can be effectively regulated and often is, and as a system it only works effectively due to the presence of regulated markets.

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by icecream_so_gud »

alexpotato wrote: post #98

I think it's interesting to describe the process to establish your identity in the United States if you lost ALL of your identification documents (e.g. in a house fire). It essentially boils down to: - Get a bunch of people you know who can verify that you are indeed who you claim to be - Have them sign legally binding documents that attest that, yes, you are you - Start building your paper documents all over again W…

I wish a similar system also existed for account recovery instead of being stonewalled by customer service I might be able to recover some years old accounts

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by anileated »

jerf wrote: post #228
anileated wrote: post #142

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The proof of humanhood is being made of meat, and that is what Sam Altman went after. The mistake he made is adding blockchain and crypto to that physical verification.

In the end, even that is an approximation. We want to limit our services to "humans" because humans can spend money, and humans can only put so much content into our services (spamming limited versus a bot), and humans want to talk to humans, maybe humans only want to date humans, etc. But if there was a bot that was well behaved (for whatever that means for a given service), and somehow legitimately viewed ads, and…

For your service maybe certain humans don’t qualify and maybe certain bots qualify. However, the matter at hand and WC purpose is proof of humanhood in particular.

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by Aerbil313 »

pcthrowaway wrote: post #313
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #206

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Plus now with ChatGPT, you don't even have to write the comments.

Many users here are far more insightful than ChatGPT. You might get some OK comments with ChatGPT and a stray upvote here and there, but I think you're more likely to get banned if you employ ChatGPT to write your HN comments at any significant volume. Not that everyone writes great comments, all the time, but I'm arguing you probably won't break into the 1000s of HN karma if you try to automate it (because you'll pr…

I thought there's no shadowban on HN.

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by arrrg »

EthanHeilman wrote: post #100
arketyp wrote: post #21

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It's funny how, in the end, the ultimate and perhaps only proof of personhood is being a person, engaged in the world. Sort of how the ultimate decentralized currency is encompassed in the global market of rising and falling economic powers. The oracle problem is a problem because there are no oracles. There is only the test of time. Or something along that line.

> the ultimate and perhaps only proof of personhood is being a person, engaged in the world I buy this. Daniel Suarez had a very similar idea, although he referred to it as the bot problem[0]. I believe this approach of identities withstanding "the test of time" solves the oracle problem but at the cost of a delayed solution. Initially you have lots and lots of bots and Sybil attacks are common. Then after a while, i…

Such a fake passport is not the same as a complete fake identity. There is more to that than a passport and a lot of it you categorically cannot fake.

A fake passport can trick some people some of the time but not all people all of the time. As such those $15k do not represent a full fake identity. Your history of enhancing with the state in some way, paying taxes, requesting a new passport, getting your drivers license, whatever, serves as defense in depth.

States are pretty good at this, actually.

Also, you account is worthless. Hard or impossible to replicate, sure, but if there is no buyer it‘s worth zero.

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by pcthrowaway »

Aerbil313 wrote: post #337
pcthrowaway wrote: post #313

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Many users here are far more insightful than ChatGPT. You might get some OK comments with ChatGPT and a stray upvote here and there, but I think you're more likely to get banned if you employ ChatGPT to write your HN comments at any significant volume. Not that everyone writes great comments, all the time, but I'm arguing you probably won't break into the 1000s of HN karma if you try to automate it (because you'll pr…

I thought there's no shadowban on HN.

There definitely is. Turn on showdead in your settings if you want to see all the comments from shadowbanned people

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by ChatGTP »

m-i-l wrote: post #104
gumballindie wrote: post #2

I am seeing a pattern here and I am starting to believe that Sam Altman is an Accelerationist: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism A lot of his actions, investments and marketing strategy seem to point in that direction.

I hope that the tech billionaires are simply blundering towards the destruction of society, rather than intentionally trying to do so with something like Effective Accelerationism. That would certainly fit with Hanlon's Razor. I have a simple theory that tech billionaires are at least partly influenced by the sci-fi of their youth. While some of the older tech billionaires were brought up on utopian sci-fi like Star…

I have felt this too. Young SV valley tech bros seem to be trying to build whatever they saw at the movies. This includes some movies with very bad outcomes unfortunately.
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