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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by QuarterReptile »

OO000oo wrote: post #306
tyfon wrote: post #258

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I kind of went the other way, I have had androids since 2010ish, then tried an iphone at the beginning of corona since my old sony phone couldn't run teams properly. Had it for 2 years and hated it so much I went back to android. I couldn't even install a separate browser like firefox that was not just a skin and the ad-block on safari drove me crazy. It only prevented items from being displayed but not the network r…

Yeah, I don't see how Apple can claim to prioritize privacy when they won't even allow real ad blocking.

I think Apple's strong claim is security, not privacy.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #197
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #65

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Which bloatware and what problems does it make you? For me, I don't really consider Microsoft Office as bloatware as I can use it, plus, what's bloatware for you might be useful apps for others, and I found it stays out of my way once I push it to the side if I don't need it, so it's existence is a non-issue for usability. Samsung bloatware used to be bad in the past but now it's decent IMHO, and I think people are b…

> Which bloatware and what problems does it make you? Just about every single pre-installed app? Their store, their browser, Bixby, Bixby vision, messaging, their car mode, their friends, Galaxy smartwatch BS, SmartThings, their weather app. It's all - to an app - worse than the alternatives, and worse than Google's defaults if that's your preference.

> Just about every single pre-installed app?

You can disable any app aside from the Galaxy Store, I believe. Takes like 5 minutes to do them all if you are a die hard Samsung hater.

> Their store, their browser, Bixby, Bixby vision, messaging, their car mode, their friends, Galaxy smartwatch BS, SmartThings, their weather app. It's all - to an app - worse than the alternatives, and worse than Google's defaults if that's your preference.

They don't have their own car mode or messaging, they use Android Auto and Google Messages.

As someone who uses some of them, Samsung apps are actually quite good generally.

Even if they were all hot garbage, there is nothing wrong with having more options IMO. All you lose is a bit of diskspace if you disable them.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by jwells89 »

cma wrote: post #319
jwells89 wrote: post #207

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It is, if you wipe it and reinstall plain Windows and whatever drivers are necessary, which is trivial on x86 PCs and basically the default for technically capable individuals. But even then, PC manufacturer bloatware doesn't typically modify the OS itself and is just extra crap bolted to it. The versions of Android that gets shipped on phones and tablets by contrast are different at the source level, sometimes beari…

Razer and Nvidia drivers almost force a login on you and do things like constantly spin up and wear out your idle HDDs searching for games to "optimize." You often have to do a research project filled with SEO spam to get around stuff like that.

At least in the case of Nvidia, the drivers bundled with Windows are good enough for most peoples' needs. It sucks for those of us who want up to date drivers for more demanding use cases though.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by fluidcruft »

p1mrx wrote: post #255
fluidcruft wrote: post #203

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I think Motorola phones are OK. I personally will never buy a Motorola after an early experience with them prior to Google buying and re-rolling them. But my wife used them and liked them and they seem less shitty than they once were. I've had a series of Nexus and Pixel phones. I had a Pixel 3 for a long long time and really, really loved it. It was such a perfect phone. I'm on Pixel 7 now and it's... alright. Compa…

> the fingerprint scanner is on Pixel 4 was so much better Are you sure you're talking about the right phone? Pixel 4 doesn't have a fingerprint scanner.

Doh. I meant Pixel 3.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by bornfreddy »

MildRant wrote: post #296

My Pixel is rapidly coming out on it's drop dead date for security updates and I'm considering just switching to an iPhone SE. I want a small phone that will be supported for a long enough time that I don't have to constantly remind myself when the EOL date is.

I think LineageOS should be well supported on Pixels, if this suits you.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by martin8412 »

partiallypro wrote: post #189
diebeforei485 wrote: post #158

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I don't think not using USB-C qualifies as an antitrust issue. It is appropriate to focus on the App Store commission, absolutely.

The "lightning port" is to block vendors from making universal products for its competitors while it lets Apple collect a licensing fee to use it, and it creates tons of needless e-Waste. No one cares though, at least not in the US.

Lightning is because it predates the USB-C connector.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by 121789 »

lolinder wrote: post #278

The link should really be to the original report [0]. This 55% is iPhone's share of phone shipments in Q2, not the number of users of the respective phones at any given time. In other words, fewer people are buying smartphones than were before, but Apple saw less of a hit to their numbers than everyone else did. Contrary to existing comments here, this stat doesn't appear to indicate that people are switching from An…

i worked a little in this space in the past. what we learned was that most people don't switch, but if they do, it's overwhelmingly in the android->ios direction and not the other way around (this is in the US). you may see some anecdotal evidence otherwise but on aggregate that was true

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by Xeamek »

JohnFen wrote: post #285
wilsonnb3 wrote: post #272

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"there really is no alternative if you want a decent cell phone in 2023" is just plain wrong. I try to avoid lumping all of the android manufacturers together and treat them individually when comparing them to apple. LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi are not as good as apple but Samsung is. Decent argument to be made for OnePlus, Google, and Asus matching apple as well.

> but Samsung is My current phone is a Samsung and I find it disappointing. Perhaps their good ones are limited to specific models?

>Perhaps their good ones are limited to specific models?

I mean, that's kinda a given when samsung has offers ranging from the verry budget to the verry top (not to mention gimmicky ones like the folds)

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by 121789 »

QuarterReptile wrote: post #331
OO000oo wrote: post #306

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Yeah, I don't see how Apple can claim to prioritize privacy when they won't even allow real ad blocking.

I think Apple's strong claim is security, not privacy.

they claim privacy very strongly. you can see billboards or commercials where privacy is their only selling point
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