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EU is repeatedly shooting itself in the foot. Same old story.
So, you are saying, the most advanced tech out there, the on the EU wont have, is ad tech ? Well, I don't really see the problem with that.
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Re: EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
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if EU lawmakers could be bought in the same way US ones can, there is absolutely no way that GDPR or the DMA would have been enacted. this isn't to say that they are completely unbuyable, but look at how much the companies affected had to lose. literally tens of billions in some cases. there's evidence online that they were pumping money into any channel possible to try and stop the DMA, but they failed
If US lawmakers could be bought the same way that EU ones can, there is absolutely no way that they would have increased the corporate tax rate from 19% to 25%. /s
that's a false equivalence and you know it
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"The US failed to break up a monopoly that to this day stifles competition and prevents effective capitalism by making itself to complicated to regulate, so lets keep making the same mistakes"
Does modern MS stifle competition and prevent effective capitalism? I don't think I've heard anyone beat that drum and get a band marching behind it in years. This is the same Microsoft that's seen its desktop market share slowly erode since 2013, right? The one holding 1.9% of smartphone marketshare? The one so impossible to regulate that the FTC is regulating it right now ( https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/pres…
> Does modern MS stifle competition and prevent effective capitalism?
Of course they do, and anyone who is confused by their marketing into thinking otherwise is just plain blind. The last someone "beat that drum" was none other than the british competition regulator aka CMA not _two months ago_, which among maaany other things literally complained Microsoft was still using their monopoly power to prevent gaming on desktop Linux. Stay classy, MS.
> We found that the Microsoft Cloud Remedy had several shortcomings: [..] Microsoft would not have to supply Activision’s full range of games to providers that may decide to operate using a non-Windows PC operating system (eg Linux)
Re: EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
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I would love to see Google leaving Europe. I bet within a few weeks proper maybe even better replacements appear in Europe. Maybe even one of mine :) Google is an ad company. None of its services are critical to maintain a stable society. I would even argue that Europe would be better of without the American tech giants.
> I would love to see Google leaving Europe. I bet within a few weeks proper maybe even better replacements appear in Europe. Maybe even one of mine :) Big words, but then I google your github and apparently you are planning to substitute biggest search engine, mobile OS and email service with 3dbriks[0], that, hilariously, "works best in _Google_ Chrome"? Come on now, there are multitude of reasons why European tech…
Are you seriously attacking me personally by mentioning my public info and a 10 year old repo. Not good man.
Re: EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
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Does modern MS stifle competition and prevent effective capitalism? I don't think I've heard anyone beat that drum and get a band marching behind it in years. This is the same Microsoft that's seen its desktop market share slowly erode since 2013, right? The one holding 1.9% of smartphone marketshare? The one so impossible to regulate that the FTC is regulating it right now ( https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/pres…
> Does modern MS stifle competition and prevent effective capitalism? Of course they do, and anyone who is confused by their marketing into thinking otherwise is just plain blind. The last someone "beat that drum" was none other than the british competition regulator aka CMA not _two months ago_, which among maaany other things literally complained Microsoft was still using their monopoly power to prevent gaming on d…
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Re: EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
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> How quickly would public opinion change if Google decided to just shut off their service in the EU for a day? Very quickly - against Google. The fact that European citizens have critical business ties to Google (from GSuite to YT partners) is a sword that cuts both ways. It means the EU can't simply shut Google down on a whim; but it also means that Google can't just throw a tantrum and put up a black page saying "…
How does Google disallow competition? China managed to overtake the top spot for social media so it's not impossible. Europe just can't build, period.
>Europe just can't build, period.
Even if that were true, it's beside the point.
If another US company were able to successfully compete without Google's domination of the market then the grounds for enforcement fall away.
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1. Neeva sounds like a hairspray brand. Not a search engine. 2. It's literally just a claim. I have no way of verifying the claim. Them asking me to pay for it makes it more sus. 3. I use searx already. Which I can confirm isn’t “spying” on me because it has nothing to tie me to my IRL identity. 4. It was a Bing reseller. I don’t care for Bing resellers.
The point is that it had no "surveillance capitalism". It failed because no one cares about that enough - proving that people prefer free with data mining/ads over subscriptions for many internet products.
Except it literally had an exact connection to my identity and they had the data to do what they wanted to 4 years down the line when investors demanded more returns.
Just…no. This is giving me vibes of the FBI “secure” phones. Fuck that.
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profit is the most important thing in history ?
You'd think as such if you're observing the EU. They happily encourage monopolies that they profit from like LVMH and Luxottica.
Exactly, Luxottica is the worst: See this 60 min talk from a decade ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDdq2rIqAlM but that does not bother EC apparently.
Re: EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
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Google Maps, YouTube, and gmail (forwarded to my fastmail) are all that I really have, but they're _really_ hard to replace. Apple Maps sucks, there's nothing near as good as YouTube, and I don't want to move hundreds of email accounts off of gmail.
> Apple Maps sucks Really? I found it more accurate in most cases. I wonder if there is a difference based on location. I am in California. Also maybe years ago it was not as good as Google, maybe it got better since then?
It works alright, but it is absolutely terrible for discovery, e.g. finding places to eat/things to do. If you already know where you want to go, it's usually pretty good.
Additionally, to view any reviews you have to download Yelp
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Just for balance, the US had Canada arrest a chinese national who had never been to the USA, for doing business with Iran (and then a bunch of other weird charges) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meng_Wanzhou China then "co-incidentally" arrested 2 Canadians. The whole thing is a shit show and it would be better for everyone if countries were more reasonable and agreed to avoid a "race to the bottom"
yes, but they were already there right? Not targeted out of country and also just to be clear, I think this is equally bad when everyone does it
That depends what you mean by "there". She was in Canada, she'd never been to the US.