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Where have all the hackers gone?

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Re: Where have all the hackers gone?

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Yes, because a couple of Go folks joined the team doing the prototype in Java, and drove the rewrite into Go. There is a FOSDEM talk about it.

Just imagining a timeline where Kubernetes was written in Java gives me chills.

Mesosphere DC/OS was partially written in Java.

Re: Where have all the hackers gone?

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> wants to talk about the Golang GC just because you have a Golang shirt on? If I see someone wearing a political t-shirt, they're clearly virtue signaling. If I ask them about it, I might expect political slogans, but often they won't even be able to manage those slogans, much less explanation of a party platform. If I see someone wearing a branded beer shirt, they're likely to be able to represent for their shirt-b…

Sometimes people are given a shirt as a gift, or they just think it looks cool. I never knew others took shirt-wearing to be such a serious activity.

I don't know if it's that serious, but personally I'd be rather embarrassed wearing an emblem or a logo and not being able to speak at least to some degree about that thing.

Reminds me of all the clueless people wearing Che Guevara shirts...

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> ADHD is advanced can mimic behaviors commonly thought of autistic Please stop and go educate yourself. ADHD is at times co-morbid with autism, but they are not the same thing, have different neurological causes, symptoms and treatments. Sincerely, a diagnosed ADHD, non-autistic person that self-identifies as an empath (i.e. the opposite of a psychopath. I can read body language and empathise with people better than…

I never claimed they were the same. I have been recently educated on this matter through numerous visits to psychologists/diagnostics in support of a family member. I promise it’s a better authoritative source than YouTube or amateur bloggers.

Are you claiming to know more than someone with the actual disorder because of secondhand discussions, and that also gives you the power to diagnose strangers over the Internet?

Bloody hell the gall of some people.

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I never claimed they were the same. I have been recently educated on this matter through numerous visits to psychologists/diagnostics in support of a family member. I promise it’s a better authoritative source than YouTube or amateur bloggers.

Are you claiming to know more than someone with the actual disorder because of secondhand discussions, and that also gives you the power to diagnose strangers over the Internet? Bloody hell the gall of some people.

It appears so.

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I agree with the forced positivity thing, I work for an American firm and if you're not positive, you're reprimanded. I had to be told several times to learn to feedback constructively. While I do appreciate this, and I understand it, I just feel like a robot now, not a human at work. So much tip toeing around issues it all just feels so fake and there is little room for emotion. Sometimes, I think it's ok to just be…

FWIW, my experience (being a 45yo who immigrated to North America at 15) is that "Culture of fake niceness" predates "Culture of Emotional intelligence and empathy" I find in last few years, many people/groups/companies are working toward increased emotional intelligence and empathy. I see that as a good thing. It just gets mixed up with the original "somewhat real but also somewhat fake classless friendly positive c…

Interesting take on it, and I've seen things trend in that direction, which is a good thing, I agree.

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Zuckerbergs?! What the hell?

I was using that as a shorthand for "geniuses who found multi-billion dollar companies".

Musk, Gates, Zuckerberg and Jobs are notoriously not hackers nor even software developers and even less so geniuses. They are businessmen.

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If Mark was a hacker of some kind, he was a growth hacker. That's what Facebook was (in)famous for in its early days - implementing various little psychological tricks that drove adoption. A lot of that came from Mark (initially, pretty much all of it). I'm not aware of any evidence that he was an exceptional engineer. So what? Why would he even care about being that? As long as you can hire engineers that are better…

iirc, Zuckerberg did not think up the concept for the like button - which was one of the huge drivers for engagement on the site. Having said that, I think Zuckerberg was a hacker. He made a few small web apps and one took off. His success shouldn't mean he is not a hacker.

I don't think the definition of a hacker is "made a few small web apps" or "one of his apps took off".

That would make him an entrepreneur and a web programmer.

Not a hacker, which (in this context) is about a great relationship with programming than "making a few web apps".

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Have other people observed the sentiment the author observes, around hackers being less common? The author has a list of reasons (VC money, business culture, managers, fear of the unknown). I, personally, have observed this reduction over my career, and I have my own idea of why that might be, my own phrasing of it. Perhaps it gets at the same thing as the author from a different angle. I think the reason, plain and…

Part of reason why I started my Substack DeusInMachina is because I felt like my coworkers weren’t as into programming, and technology as I was. More of a clock in clock out thing for them. Which is totally fine except I actually felt really lonely about wanting to geek out about AI, Niche programming languages, and programmer culture, but not having anyone to talk to

Re: Where have all the hackers gone?

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Sorry if this is off-topic but I often see in HN (either in articles posted here, or in the comments) lack of empathy. He talks about a "friend" and then proceeds to say things like "To be honest, I suspect he didn't know or think much about them" or "This was not a fruitful conversation". How is that supposed friend, who might very well be aware of this person's blog, going to feel after reading this? Is it a cultur…

Yeah-- that's always been the case in more technical crowds from my experience. I switched to HN from Slashdot like a decade ago because the Slashdot crowd seemed to get overrun with folks like that. Recently, I most frequently notice it when people discuss potential job losses from AI automation. Regardless of whether or not this is good for society, it's absolutely bizarre how many folks around here (and some other…

IMO, the grave-dancing on artists most likely arises from a (probably small) subset of artists having a vocally "fuck you, pay me for my skill" attitude.

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> He just wrote a crappy basic PHP backend. lol. citation needed. Among geniuses who can build a FAANG company from scratch, I'm sure Zuck is not the strongest software engineer or hacker or whatever. Like, Jeff Dean is undoubtedly a better engineer. Craig Silverstein, too. And Bret Taylor. But if you're going to tell me Zuck is a mediocrity -- not just "a lesser light than Jeff Dean" but an actual mediocrity like us…

I would say the fact that he had the drive to quickly learn Chinese and then went to China and actually gave a talk in Chinese suggests he has higher than average mental aptitude.

He studied Chinese daily for four years prior to giving that talk.

Studying a language daily for four years suggests determination and willpower, yes.

But I would expect most people who have studied a language daily for four years to be able to give a talk in that language if they needed to and knew ahead of time. I'm not sure that's a non-average learning time.

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