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Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by kelnos »

JohnFen wrote: post #62
manningthegoose wrote: post #9

I just don't understand who wants these foldable phones, especially at the $1799 price point. I guess a use case is wealthy frequent travelers who don't want a separate device with a larger screen to watch movies/videos on the go? Someone help me out here.

> the $1799 price point The folding bit has no value to me, but even if it did, that price point is unacceptable. A phone is something I carry every day and don't treat like a delicate flower. If it costs so much that losing or breaking it would bring financial pain in addition to the pain of the loss of the phone, it's not suitable for my needs. That said, I'm being overly cautious because I've never actually lost o…

That's the thing. My current phone (Pixel 4) was something like $700 when I first bought it, and the idea of breaking it was pretty scary for me, for something I carry around with me everywhere, every day. It's been a while since I've broken a phone, but it's happened, and my wallet was not pleased about the experience.

I don't have a tablet and wouldn't want one as a dedicated device, but I could absolutely see myself using the tablet features of the Pixel Fold, given that I wouldn't be carrying around an extra device, and it's pocket-sized when folded up. (I usually read a book on my phone when on transit, for example, and would love to be able to do that on a larger screen.) But carrying around a $1800 device that's as easily breakable as a phone? I think I'd be too anxious for that.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by maxpert »

4800mAh battery for bigger screen, and extra processing? What was feature team smoking when putting specs together? 7A has more battery and it hardly is gonna do a day, and you are telling me I am gonna spend $1800 for a bar trick phone? No thanks!

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by kelnos »

hug wrote: post #309
TheGoodBarn wrote: post #247

Could you imagine if Amazon made a fire phone unfolded that’s opens into an e-ink kindle? I would own that.

I dream of a clamshell e-reader, with dual 7 or 8" screens, that reads in the traditional two-pages-at-a-time kind of book orientation. It seems a no brainer to me. It would keep the fragile e-ink substrate safe, while being more ergonomic and allowing you to have twice the screen real-estate without ending up with the terrible reading experience with too-long-lines that you get from current large-screen e-readers.

Back in 2009/2010 I worked for a startup that was doing something like that. The screens were a bit bigger (maybe 10" or 12"? can't remember), and they were LCDs, not e-ink. The device was heavy, but the intended market was college students who could read textbooks on it, and take notes directly on the book's pages with a stylus. (It also had a web browser and dedicated note-taking app, among other things.)

The product's timing was off; the first iPad came out while we were still building it, which made it quite a bit less attractive, and it likely could be made much thinner and lighter today. (What really killed it was the founders' inability to secure digital rights from any textbook publishers... though arguably it would still have been a tough product to sell even without that obstacle.)

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by [deleted] »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #329

I would love one of these if they were trifold rather than bifold. That would mean the same number of screens, even, since the outer screen would become one third of the unfolded screen.

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Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by kelnos »

doctor_eval wrote: post #304
caddemon wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Foldables are emerging tech right now anyway, they're probably going to see way bigger improvements in other functionalities over the next 5 years than the iPhone has in the last 5 years. I think if you're buying a foldable at this stage you're probably not attached to keeping it more than 2-3 years in the first place. In the future I'm guessing their durability will also be much better.

You'll know they're mature when Apple releases one. (IMO this is not a bad thing either way)

I was thinking that too. I have my issues with Apple, but they usually find a pretty good trade off between trailblazing something new, and waiting until the available technology will let them build something to their standards of usability and durability.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by kelnos »

TobyTheDog123 wrote: post #305
netheril96 wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your reasoning is flawed. iPhone 14 fits the same use case as iPhone 11, but Foldable fits a different use case than normal phones. You may find Foldable useless but that doesn’t make your reasoning any less flawed.

And what use case would that be?

Someone who wants a phone and a tablet, but doesn't want two devices, and doesn't want to have to lug around a tablet that doesn't fit in their pocket.

If it wasn't so expensive, and I wasn't still skeptical of the durability of the folding tech, I would buy this. I don't have a tablet for the above reason, but would absolutely make use of something like this.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by Hamuko »

the_pwner224 wrote: post #325
DiabloD3 wrote: post #95

Yikes. Google hasn't magically figured out how to fix the problem with the screens failing after a few hundred bends; neither has Samsung, which is most likely their display supplier. On top of that, there is no viable market for a phone over $1200 (and, arguably, no market for over $1000, ask Apple how their sales have been going down since the peak in 2015); what were they even thinking? This is ridiculous even for…

> On top of that, there is no viable market for a phone over $1200 Yes, surely Google didn't do any market research before investing $$$$$ into developing a new device. There's enough of a market that Samsung is now on the 4th gen of their Z Fold, and the 5th gen is coming out soon.

I wouldn't be surprised if Google in fact did little to no market research. At least Stadia (RIP) didn't seem like an idea that was properly researched.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by drcode »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #329

I would love one of these if they were trifold rather than bifold. That would mean the same number of screens, even, since the outer screen would become one third of the unfolded screen.

there are rumors Samsung might announce a trifold this fall, who knows if they're true

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by kelnos »

unclad5968 wrote: post #241
anonporridge wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment right here is part of why the banking crisis has just barely started. Tons and tons of people have their cash sitting in a shitty Chase savings account yielding 0.1%, while there are many FDIC insured banks offering at least 3% and up to 5%. As a critical mass of these people realize the options available, they'll rapidly move their money with online transfers causing more banks to collapse. The extremel…

What cap one account do you have? Mine nets a whopping 0.3% APY

According to [0], the "360 Performance Savings" is at 3.75% now.

[0] https://www.capitalone.com/bank/open-an-account/

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