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Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Okay, I can share a DVD with my friends or neighbours, but I can't share my account? How does this make any sense?

Maybe the idea is like how you can't go to a buffet and share food with someone who hasn't paid the entry fee

But you can't eat the same food twice.

But you can watch the same video twice.

With food, atoms move irreversibly in one direction. With video, there is no such constraints.

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> The move was linked to a fall in users of more than a million, two thirds of whom were using someone else’s password > Subscription cancellations in the first quarter tripled compared to the previous period, according to Kantar’s research. Of all remaining Netflix subscribers in Spain, one-tenth said they planned to unsubscribe in the second quarter. So they lost 300,000 paying users whom they think will come back,…

> When the family are cut off, they cancel.

The mistake Netflix makes is to assume that the families and friends, who have been using a shared login, will signup for a subscription on their own. They won't, the value proposition isn't there anymore and these are people who didn't want to pay for the subscription to begin with.

I have serious doubts about Netflix calculations on this decision, but I also don't see what else they could do. They can't buy the content people want and they struggle to produce high quality movies and shows. Their productions are beautiful, but the scripts are severely lacking. Sometimes they get lucky and do a good season of a show, only to screw up subsequent seasons.

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> I want some way of telling them "I don't want to wade through crap..." Yarr matey, one way do be not parting ways with coin for said services, instead making a more... equitable re-appropriation

I genuinely don't understand this sentiment in 2023. Maybe in 2003 it was reasonable, but if you have the money, just spend it to buy the content you want. I get that there's a lot of "crap" that you don't want to see, but I appreciate some of that, and I'm sure you appreciate some of what I call "crap". I don't see how you go from that situation to justifying not paying for it. There's a price for the content and it…

I bought and ripped the stuff we tend to rewatch a lot (The Office, Friends, Star Trek, Stargate, etc.) and am serving them from a local Plex instance.

I occasionally pirate episodes of TV shows that would require another subscription (already paying for Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, HBO and Prime). Honestly, I'd much rather cancel all that and just pay à la carte for content as long as it's something reasonable (like $0.50 - $1 / episode or ~ $10 / season and $2 - $15 / movie - that adds up to about the same cost based on my family's viewing patterns, plus I get flexibility).

It was nice when Netflix was the only game in town and it was worthwhile to pay it for the library, now it's too much to pay all these services for just a pile of 99% excrement.

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Wish there was a streaming service that specialized on old shows like: - The Jeffersons - All In the Family - Good Times - Cheers - Seinfeld - Three's Company - The A-Team - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987) etc. It would be the 'one streaming service to rule them all' for me.

You might want to check FilmIn, maybe they offer content more of your liking.

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Netflix have really dissapointed me. I've been a subscriber since before streaming, and have even been content paying the subscription fee during the "breaks" of not using their service for up to months at a time because I so badly want(ed) them to succeed. I also understood the difficult situation they were facing when the producers of content were makkng ridiculous demands on their distribution, or worse, just pull…

> trash telly It's not just Netflix. Disney+ has a bunch of National Geographic infotainment ... minus the info type shows. HBO is going to end up with Discovery Channel ... stuff. I want some way of telling them "I don't want to wade through crap..."

I agree. I haven't watched anything on Netflix since 2019. Don't have D+, Hulu, HBO, or anything else. I have YouTube TV which I use pretty much only for sports.

Pretty much all the other video I watch is independent content on YouTube. Just people talking about and showing stuff they are interested in. I'm sort of amused that these people come up with more compelling stuff to watch than the big studios with their huge budgets, writers, celebrities, etc.

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On Windows, the standalone Netflix app and Netflix in the Edge browser support 4K resolution.

Any idea why Edge? It's a chromium wrapper. Do they add some specialized codec or something?

Yes. Chromium and “Edgium” add a lot of their own closed-source services before releasing package. One example is that “Translate website” toolbar that Chrome has, which sends the entire content to Google’s servers using their own API key. That’s not present in the Chromium source.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/8/18300772/microsoft-google-...

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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I guess their calculus is how much does it cost to support 10-20 streaming users. Is it worth getting $18/mo for? I don't know the answer, but that seems to be their approach.

It feels the same as back when the music industry thought that those that pirated music would automatically purchase it if the "free" version was removed. They were wrong then and the streaming services are just as wrong now. I think Netflix (and others) are looking at that 10-20 x $18/month and salivating, not realizing that the money just isn't there. They need to take a page from the Microsoft book and let people…

iTunes was very successful before the age of streaming and for awhile was the number one Music Store.

Today, who would waste time pirating music instead of paying for a streaming service?

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> I think the issue is that people who are paying for an account they are sharing are likely to keep the account active so their family members can continue watching. When the family are cut off, they cancel. That's the case for me indeed. I myself basically stopped watching Netflix, somehow the content doesn't do anything for me anymore. But I shared my account with family and they watch it. If this gets to us, and…

Interesting you say that the content doesn't appeal to you anymore. I feel the same way. My observation is that, for the most part, most of Netflix's original content is reality TV and comedy specials. They don't even seem to be bothering to create great content like Stranger Things anymore. We are at the enshittification of Netflix stage.

To me it seems like Netflix is struggling to attract good script writers. Their productions are beautiful, but the scripts are terrible.

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> I want some way of telling them "I don't want to wade through crap..." Yarr matey, one way do be not parting ways with coin for said services, instead making a more... equitable re-appropriation

I genuinely don't understand this sentiment in 2023. Maybe in 2003 it was reasonable, but if you have the money, just spend it to buy the content you want. I get that there's a lot of "crap" that you don't want to see, but I appreciate some of that, and I'm sure you appreciate some of what I call "crap". I don't see how you go from that situation to justifying not paying for it. There's a price for the content and it…

Simplest answer is because one can. It is much safer to grab any digital content than physical goods. If it were easier like this to grab food from stores and restaurants, grab homes of other people, they would do that too. Its not even hypothetical, in many parts of the world this all happens very commonly.

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What kind of woke crap? I don't really understand the definition, but that's because it is US identity politics and nobody wants to define it apparently. But maybe from afar you have a particular definition?

I don’t understand why it’s so difficult to describe woke. It’s mostly genders and race, it becomes a problem when you’re trying to watch a movie and you start noticing the minority token that exists exclusively to gain imaginary social points but adds nothing to the story. This isn’t anything new however, cinema is soft power and the US has been at it for nearly a century now.

Is that not a perception issue, and more descriptive of the viewer than any specific action on the part of the creator? How do we objectively define what 'adds nothing to the story' looks like?
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