They've already yoinked hundreds of Ukraine children from families, so why not? Embrace the fuckery and continue the war crimes on your own citizens.
Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their children
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and lost a chunk of east ukraine
So you propose it's better to submit than fight for your freedom? That's your choice. Let's see where Ukraine is in 5 years and where Russia will be. Your mentality fits nicely in russian society. And in case you didn't notice, eastern Ukraine and Crimea is still Ukraine. Soon free from russian invaders.
given the disastrous policies of the ukranian government, in 5 years it would not surprise me if ukraine is divided between russia and poland. im sure the poles would love that too
> Your mentality fits nicely in russian society.
i think my mentality fits pretty nicely with that of southern Europe, where i live. i also happen to think that polish ukranian and russian mentality fit rather well together, especially the rampant xenophobia
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The authoritarianism in Belarus is entirely domestic in origin and predates the modern Russian one.
Belarus and Russia entering into the Unity State sounds like a transfer of much of Belarus' decision making to Moscow.
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Belarus and Russia entering into the Unity State sounds like a transfer of much of Belarus' decision making to Moscow.
The Union State was founded in 1997 and remained a joke ever since.
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So you propose it's better to submit than fight for your freedom? That's your choice. Let's see where Ukraine is in 5 years and where Russia will be. Your mentality fits nicely in russian society. And in case you didn't notice, eastern Ukraine and Crimea is still Ukraine. Soon free from russian invaders.
> Let's see where Ukraine is in 5 years and where Russia will be given the disastrous policies of the ukranian government, in 5 years it would not surprise me if ukraine is divided between russia and poland. im sure the poles would love that too > Your mentality fits nicely in russian society. i think my mentality fits pretty nicely with that of southern Europe, where i live. i also happen to think that polish ukrani…
Do you point out the policy of not letting it's people genocided without a fight? Or do you mean something else? I don't this is even up for the government to decide, Ukrainians would fight no matter their governments policy.
> especially the rampant xenophobia
Please don't project your own mentality onto others.
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How come? Several of my friends' coworkers were conscripted and sent to the front (the friends themselves managed to leave the country the next day). I don't even need to believe what the newspapers are saying — it's straight from the horse's mouth. The conscription has not reached Ukraine's levels yet, but only because 2024 is not far away, and Putin expects to get his 75% without too much trouble. After that, who k…
i know plenty of ukranians that left ukraine in order to dodge conscription. although they hope russia looses they say they would not give their life for benefit of the corrupt elite. to me that is a smart decision. same for russians that leave russia in order to escape conscription. this war sucks as do all sides supporting it
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Honestly, what I hear is moving the goalposts until "it's irrelevant whether you did anything, if you lost it's your damn fault lmao". Same with Belarus 2020. Well, if I'm hearing it right, then good luck with that brush. It might be understandable, but that doesn't make it excusable.
Honestly, this playing the victim is at best getting tiring. You've ignored my comment to hear it as moving the goal posts. Again: only ca. 2% of the population are siloviki, who rely on the rest for support, for food, for logistics, for communication, IT support, etc., etc. If the protests fail, is because most of the 98% don't care, or snitch, or actively oppose the protest. That makes them culpable. A few complain…
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i know plenty of ukranians that left ukraine in order to dodge conscription. although they hope russia looses they say they would not give their life for benefit of the corrupt elite. to me that is a smart decision. same for russians that leave russia in order to escape conscription. this war sucks as do all sides supporting it
russia is the only side supporting the war, russia can fuck off from Ukraine any time it wants and the war will be over immediately.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/21/whats-behind-pro-ru...
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> Let's see where Ukraine is in 5 years and where Russia will be given the disastrous policies of the ukranian government, in 5 years it would not surprise me if ukraine is divided between russia and poland. im sure the poles would love that too > Your mentality fits nicely in russian society. i think my mentality fits pretty nicely with that of southern Europe, where i live. i also happen to think that polish ukrani…
> given the disastrous policies of the ukranian government Do you point out the policy of not letting it's people genocided without a fight? Or do you mean something else? I don't this is even up for the government to decide, Ukrainians would fight no matter their governments policy. > especially the rampant xenophobia Please don't project your own mentality onto others.
is that why they prevent all men from leaving their country?
> Please don't project your own mentality onto others
Mine? The founder of Azov, Andriy Biletsky declared in 2010 that the Ukrainian nation’s mission was to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen [subhumans].” There are now streets in Ukraine that carry names of the Azov clowns, and Bilenski is frequently present in ceremonies. But hey, let's give them all weapons we have so that they can fight the Russians. What a marvelous idea ... not. But it is what it is, and Azov Regiment is going to be part of the planned counter-offensive this spring
The reality is, the United States supports Ukranians in much the same way it supported the Afghans during the 1980s. Groups like Azov and Right Sector are just the new Taliban. For Ukraninan people's sake lets hope Ukraine doesn't end up like Afghanistan
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-probl...
* Just in case you think I was brainwashed by KGB
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/azov-swastika-flag-ukraine...
* Picture tells a thousand words
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russia is the only side supporting the war, russia can fuck off from Ukraine any time it wants and the war will be over immediately.
i don't think you speak for all ukranians though https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/21/whats-behind-pro-ru...