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Re: Framework Laptop 16

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I’m happy to answer questions that folks have on this. There was also an earlier HN thread on our full launch event where we announced 13th Gen Intel Core and AMD Ryzen 7040 Series versions of the Framework Laptop 13, along with a bunch of other stuff: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35277660

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Re: Framework Laptop 16

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post #285

Why do companies insist on messing with laptop keyboard layouts? Where's the menu key? Where are the Home, PgDn, PgUp, and End keys? I've used cheap sub 300-dollar laptops with keyboards more complete than this. The silver lining here is that Framework keyboards are replaceable in theory. I'll wait until a proper keyboard gets released.

If someone from Framework is reading this, page up and page down are among my most used keys. Having to use an extra hand for something so common is crazy. I absolutely will not buy a laptop or standalone keyboard without dedicated page up and page down keys.

Ideally, page up and down will be next to the arrow keys (look at a Thinkpad keyboard), but off to the side is still better than not existing.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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post #167

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We’ve been very deliberate about making this not a traditional gaming laptop, but a laptop that can be configured with enough performance to play intense games. You can configure it without the Graphics Module and have a high-performance 16” notebook with reconfigurable input and easy repairability and upgradeabilty.

Possibly this could work better with all that space? https://imgur.com/a/V0Ykw1D

If you watch the latest Linus tech tips video you can see the amount of customization available in that top deck area, which includes the possibility of a num pad.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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post #309
post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’ve been very deliberate about making this not a traditional gaming laptop, but a laptop that can be configured with enough performance to play intense games. You can configure it without the Graphics Module and have a high-performance 16” notebook with reconfigurable input and easy repairability and upgradeabilty.

As someone who's blind and wants a lot of CPU performance but doesn't care about the GPU I appreciate this. I'm torn between a desktop and a laptop when replacing my current 8 year old desktop. I'm hoping that I will be able to configure this laptop with something more powerful then the current Framework CPU's. Given the fact that I only travel two or three weeks a year it would be nice to have this act as a desktop…

Are you able to explain what and how you use your laptop?

I saw someone blind using an iPhone one and it utterly blew me away - I also had no idea what they were doing, as they were hitting buttons before text yo speech had finished.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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post #309
post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’ve been very deliberate about making this not a traditional gaming laptop, but a laptop that can be configured with enough performance to play intense games. You can configure it without the Graphics Module and have a high-performance 16” notebook with reconfigurable input and easy repairability and upgradeabilty.

As someone who's blind and wants a lot of CPU performance but doesn't care about the GPU I appreciate this. I'm torn between a desktop and a laptop when replacing my current 8 year old desktop. I'm hoping that I will be able to configure this laptop with something more powerful then the current Framework CPU's. Given the fact that I only travel two or three weeks a year it would be nice to have this act as a desktop…

I don't know anything about your specific situation, needs, and preferences, but GPUs are not self evidently useless for blind users. In some systems, they can contribute to higher quality speech synthesis. They could also have a role to play in vision support tasks (e.g. determining whether you're properly positioned in front of your webcam in a video chat, or recognizing and describing something you're holding up to your camera).

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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post #319

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> Back when I worked on Thinkpad, I really hated these keys, whenever I accidentally pressed them. A key can be disabled. An empty space can't be filled with a key.

Disabling a key does not help with the spacial issues having a key there in the first place adds for some folks.

Folks having spatial issues should consider learning touch typing and use the raised plastic helpers on top of the keys like f, j and down

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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post #8

I hope it's possible to fit a pointing stick (TrackPoint) keyboard within that 3.7mm, and that someone first- or third-party makes one. I'm keen to try replacing my ThinkPad with a Framework as soon as that's available, but not before.

Yes, on this particular topic I don't use laptops because I find them painful (cramped keyboard and track pad). It looks there might be enough space here (and maybe custom modules) to remove the track pad completely, and have a more ergonomic keyboard.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Really happy for anyone looking for a larger high-performance laptop!

But personally, I was really hoping for a 13-inch convertible with touch and pen input from these guys... Maybe next year?

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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post #317
post #226

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S3 is unfortunately pretty much dead all-around, but S0ix continues to improve. We have firmware optimizations going in on both the system side and the Expansion Card side to help reduce bad retimer behavior around suspend though which improves power draw.

I think we talked about that before, but lmk if you need help with S0. It takes some work, but it's possible to get to less than 0.5%/battery/hour, a fair benchmark as a battery reduced by >=5% after 10h of sleep is generally acceptable

holy crap, I'd love usage numbers that low. I'm running PopOS on a thinkpad, not on a framework, but S0 has been a long fight for me and I haven't felt like I've made much progress.

Do you have links to useful resources??

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