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Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by nomel »

throwaway19294 wrote: post #36
picture wrote: post #13

Does benchmark results really matter that much for phones? I don't see myself compiling code, playing graphics intensive video games, multitasking with many engineering software running simultaneously, on a phone. Although Apple most definitely still leads on these factors, I think battery life, general latency/responsiveness of doing daily tasks, reliability, etc, are more important than some random coremark.

I do all of the above on my smartphone. I just use the USB-C connector to plug it into a hub and plug in a display, keyboard and mouse. I have OpenVSCode-Server running within Termux, along with Python installed there. Unfortunately iPhone can't do that so who cares about the better Geekbench score...

You should look at nReal Air [1], and skip another 5 years into the future.

1. https://www.nreal.ai/air/

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Post by tomcam »

oliveshell wrote: post #56
itake wrote: post #29

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I use an iPhone X (released 2017) and I wish it kept up with modern app performance requirements. The iPhone X doesn't support built-in OCR in images and apps take 1-2s longer to launch than my iPhone 13. Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow.

> Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow. Exactly. I use a 2nd gen iPhone SE, and a big reason I bought it was that it had the then-beefy A13 chip despite being a “budget model”. It’s now nearly 3 years old and still feels like a brand new phone.

That SE is the best phone value Apple ever released

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Post by notshift »

ilyt wrote: post #212
acdha wrote: post #149

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You care about single-core performance when you use the web: things like JavaScript processing, layout, etc. will bottleneck on one core and since developers are shipping more code this is probably the most noticeable difference. It's also a little hard to tell in some cases since there are many “native apps” which use an embedded web view for some of their UI. This is important for developers to know about because i…

My phone is aging One Plus 5T and so far I never felt even slight reason to change it. It is just plainly fast enough. Only thing that would make extra performance matter are video games and I don't play those on phone.

I have a One Plus which is slightly newer than that (~4 years old). It's very slow. I suspect people with a sentiment like yours just don't care about small amounts of latency. I wish the screen was immediately and instantaneously responsive to all my actions, and I wish all the apps I opened would immediately be interactive as soon as they are visible.

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Post by BanazirGalbasi »

hot_gril wrote: post #194
miloignis wrote: post #128

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> I have a shitton of hardware and cables that I'm not going to throw away just for some connector that will be phased out in ten years. Most people already have USB-C cables. Apple people often have them b/c of a MacBook or w/e. > On my desktop, sure. On my phone? Why bother? Dark Mode, Ad Blocking, etc. > Disagree Freedom is important, even if you don't need it now. Someone else, maybe you in the future, may need i…

> Freedom is important, even if you don't need it now. Someone else, maybe you in the future, may need it. I will switch to Android if I ever need the ability to use my phone like a PC. So far (10-ish years), that hasn't happened.

There is an increasing trend of younger generations using phones for tasks that we'd use computers for. I've even heard of cases where students write short essays using Google Docs and their phone rather than pulling out their laptops (although I can't verify these stories). Some social apps (like Hive, an attempted Twitter replacement) don't even have desktop/web versions and require using the mobile app to interact.

While you don't use your phone like a PC, I think there's a strong case to be made for allowing for that kind of functionality. However, like you said - you don't need to switch if you don't need that capability. I personally install a lot of apps from FDroid or straight from APK files, but I don't use my phone like a PC like I just described. The range varies, and having that flexibility is nice.

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Post by mrtksn »

orionion wrote: post #317
mrtksn wrote: post #239

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> Everyone in this thread is arguing about operating systems and their mobile OS preference... why? It's like football game for geeks, it's not a big deal. It's fun as long as you don't take it too seriously. On a more serious note, I prefer Apple's style of doing things and pray to the gods Android doesn't obliterate Apple's OS. Just last week I got my hands on a Amazon Fire TV, it was cool until the AirScreen app s…

Don't confuse Amazon "Fire" performance with a "real" Android device. Amazon is subpar in my experience, and is several (many) generations behind. >Amazon began referring to the Android derivative as Fire OS with its third iteration of Fire tablets. Unlike previous Fire models, whose operating system was described as "based on" Android, Fire OS 3.0 was described as "compatible with" Android. https://en.wikipedia.org/…

I'm familiar with "this is not true Android" line. If it was not a derivative but vendor version the solution would have been that I should try Pixel or something which is pure Android. If it was the pure Android, the solution would have been that I should give a try to .

That's also why I don't like Android, you can't have it all in a single device. Everyone does something very well but lacks hugely in something else, so for each use case you need a new device.

Good Android experience is for the super rich, who can afford all the devices and use the correct one when needed.

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Post by brewdad »

hot_gril wrote: post #184
mbigras wrote: post #175

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Excellent to see a fellow SE user! I still happily run my iPhone SE (1st generation). I might take 5 minutes to boot Notion or run out memory and crash when I try to boot Amazon; but, my EarPods pair instantly—I just plug my 3.5 mm jack in my 3.5 mm port and then I can freely listen to music or do a phone call (works every time)! Also, I can easily swap connections from my laptop to my phone with the same workflow—si…

I would rather have a gen1 SE than my current iPhone 12 mini. Had an iPhone 5 before, but AT&T stopped serving data to it. I thought maaybe it'd be ok not having a headphone jack, but nah, this sucks.

Buy the $9 dongle from Apple and keep it permanently connected to your headphones. Then it's just a plug in scenario, the same as a headphone jack whenever you want to use them. Sure, you can't charge and use your headphones at the same time but I get 2 full days of battery life from my iPhone 12.

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Post by aequitas »

oliveshell wrote: post #56
itake wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use an iPhone X (released 2017) and I wish it kept up with modern app performance requirements. The iPhone X doesn't support built-in OCR in images and apps take 1-2s longer to launch than my iPhone 13. Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow.

> Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow. Exactly. I use a 2nd gen iPhone SE, and a big reason I bought it was that it had the then-beefy A13 chip despite being a “budget model”. It’s now nearly 3 years old and still feels like a brand new phone.

Same phone here. Only thing I really wish for is better battery capacity out of the box. Battery health is now 83% which is not the worse but definitely noticeable when I don’t charge during the day. But even brand new the phone would not make it through some days without charging or powersaving mode.

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Post by moolcool »

6nf wrote: post #311
moolcool wrote: post #268

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What about Samsung Exynos?

Are they gonna put it in the Galaxy S23?

I don't know, but I'm just saying that Samsung has an in-house chip which they do vertically integrate into some of their products.

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Post by 6nf »

moolcool wrote: post #338
6nf wrote: post #311

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Are they gonna put it in the Galaxy S23?

I don't know, but I'm just saying that Samsung has an in-house chip which they do vertically integrate into some of their products.

Spoiler: They are not and they probably won't even put it in the 2024 version either...

My point is that Samsung is not there yet.

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Post by hot_gril »

BanazirGalbasi wrote: post #334
hot_gril wrote: post #194

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> Freedom is important, even if you don't need it now. Someone else, maybe you in the future, may need it. I will switch to Android if I ever need the ability to use my phone like a PC. So far (10-ish years), that hasn't happened.

There is an increasing trend of younger generations using phones for tasks that we'd use computers for. I've even heard of cases where students write short essays using Google Docs and their phone rather than pulling out their laptops (although I can't verify these stories). Some social apps (like Hive, an attempted Twitter replacement) don't even have desktop/web versions and require using the mobile app to interact…

Yes some people do work tasks on a phone. There's a difference between that and using a phone like a PC. They aren't moving stuff around a file browser, installing ad-hoc apps, opening a command line, etc. They're still doing things the locked-down way, so the iPhone is fine for them, in fact younger people tend to prefer that.
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