The worst part of this is that everyone at GitHub is now forced to use Microsoft Teams.
Sentiments like this should probably temper the ChatGPT/Bing hype.
GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices
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"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
then nothing can ever be malice. This razor sucks.
It can, you just need to point out in what ways a thing is not adequately explained by stupidity.
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Teams is the result of Microsoft taking a look at Slack and saying, how can we make this feel more like Excel?
I don't see where is that a problem? People who will be using Teams are people using Office 365 daily. Having a cohesive ecosystem makes complete sense. From a UX too.
People who use Teams are people who have had it forced upon them. Make of that what you will.
Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices
#334The worst part of this is that everyone at GitHub is now forced to use Microsoft Teams.
Teams is not so bad. People only use it if there is no other way and no one is sending animated stuff or memes on it..Much better than Slack in that regard
Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices
#335The worst part of this is that everyone at GitHub is now forced to use Microsoft Teams.
They've always been remote first anyway, I wonder why waste the money
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#336This really is the techpocalypse, huh? I’m young (35) but I’ve never seen layoffs so continuous. I wonder how far into the year this will go and if we’ll ever come back. Maybe companies truly will start offshoring.
Have to remember that this is happening when we're not even in a recession. I can't imagine what things will be like when that eventually happens.
Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices
#337The worst part of this is that everyone at GitHub is now forced to use Microsoft Teams.
this is terrifying. for all the grief people give Slack, I've used both and I would seriously consider leaving a company that expected me to use Teams long term.
Indeed, I'd rather use Discord than MS Teams if I wasn't allowed to use Slack. But in reality we'd probably get engineering departments just switching back to IRC and hastebin.
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#338Earlier quoted context omitted.
this is terrifying. for all the grief people give Slack, I've used both and I would seriously consider leaving a company that expected me to use Teams long term.
I agree. I went on parental leave a couple of months ago but had I not I would have started using something other than Teams with my colleagues with no regard to what the official platform is. I don't get why upper management thinks they have anything to do with how I communicate with my colleagues. I can only assume they would want us to choose a platform that allows us to work effectively.
> I don't get why upper management thinks they have anything to do with how I communicate with my colleagues. I can only assume they would want us to choose a platform that allows us to work effectively.
Auditing and compliance.
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#339Just wait till Microsoft starts charging a license for vs code and developers heads implode.
Hold on that could actually happen? It's not officially open source or anything?
No - it won't happen. The core editor is open source.
At best, MS has some limitations around running some plugins (that they also develop) that require the licensed version of VSCode, rather than the OSS build.
Most of those plugins either use MS servers (ex: Live Share) or use toolchains that MS is historically more closed with (their C++ toolchains).
Generally speaking - you can use OSS Code today, without any issues. There's a flatpak here https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.visualstudio.code-oss and many distros package it as the default...
I run arch and it's in the repos as simply "code" - https://archlinux.org/packages/?name=code
I run this as my default everywhere, and it works a-ok. There is a small subset of devs that would likely feel some pain losing the closed extensions, but the total impact feels overblown to me.
Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices
#340I am absolutely certain this is to suppress wages and employee rights. It is a coordinated effort across the industry and should be immediately investigated.
I think you are right but this site is mostly for the "Temporary Embarrassed Milionaires" crowd that identify more with those large companies than with the average worker.
The irony is that many of them are actually part of this layoff reading this and still they don't agree with what is really happening.
The inevitable periodic 'crash' that is part of the capitalist system is a feature, not a bug. It helps suppress wages, keeps workers in their place. So I think you are right on the money.
So many more layoffs will be announced in the coming weeks. But remember: all companies will show (record) healthy profits none the less.
Even the hacker news crowd that lives lavishly and is mostly unharmed by all of this should not feel save at all, you are just as expendable as the anonymous warehouse worker or fast food person.
Speaking of which, the 100K+ tech worker has more in common with the average fast food or retail worker than the owning class: you are worker slaves that fear for their well-being if without work.
Unfortunately I'm afraid the HN crowd is just too comfortable to realise that capitalism is destroying everything, from freedom and autonomy to democracy to the environment.