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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by smoldesu »

m463 wrote: post #308
ezekg wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You use it consistently during the workday and it's still not worth $20/mo?

This is one of those puzzling things to me. You own your life - why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better? Who cares? I worked at a job where I had a small, crappy monitor. I made decent cash. I just bought a large decent monitor and brought it into work. I ended up using it for many years. My life was significantly better. I've done that at several jobs since then, and NEVER regr…

> why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better?

Objectively, a few reasons:

- You can't afford it.

- Paying for it doesn't let you "own" anything

- It's not reliable

- It's legal compatibility is not fully decided yet

- It can preclude opportunities for learning and even teach you entirely false things under the guise they are true

The list probably goes on, but I don't think we should buy everything that stands to make our lives better. If we applied that logic to everything in our lives, we'd all use computers from Skymall and eat food we see on QVC.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by isoprophlex »

generalizations wrote: post #208
frontman1988 wrote: post #61

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Never gonna come from 'OpenAI'. ChatGPT is deliberately handicapped in order to milk money from corporate America. An unrestricted LLM trained on all data of humanity (including all the pirated books/research papers) would be one crazy beast. Hopefully some rich anarchist/maverick actually builds something like it. That untamed model would unveil the true extent of what AI can really do. Till then we will have to wai…

I'm right there with you. Give it about 5-10 years though, and the compute required for that endeavor will likely be in the $1000-10,000 range. That crazy beast might be selfhosted pretty soon.

I want it in a gleaming metal box, self-contained on whatever is the 2033 version of a raspberry pi. I want it equipped with speech-to-text and text-to-speech. The box is featureless except for three rotary dials for "sass", "verbosity" and "sarcasm".

It can be a family heirloom, lovingly ridiculed as grandpa's toy AI, to be taken out of an attic on christmases in 2050.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by mistermann »

kokanee wrote: post #149
PedroBatista wrote: post #91

$20 seems reasonable. I wonder how are they going to deal with "unreasonable intensive usage" aka people/companies offering "AI" in their products when in reality they just act as a proxy between people paying them ( sometimes a lot of money ) and OpenAI.

$20 is the very first price tier introduced at the very outset of what could be one of the most powerful companies of our generation. Google.com adding a single yellow box with an advertisement seemed reasonable, too. Anyone else having serious concerns about the direction this is going? At my wife's company they have already largely replaced an hourly data classification job with ChatGPT. This announcement is the fi…

> I'm not saying that those jobs need to be artificially protected or that painful changes should be avoided (basically all tech workers automate human work to some extent) but I'm really concerned about the wealth gap and the extent to which we are pouring gas on that fire. Income inequality looks just like it did before the Great Depression, and now we're handing the power to replace human work over to those who can afford to pay for it.

An additional (possible/plausible) wrinkle: all major social media platforms are ~~compromised~~ in a state whereby the common man is not able to have unconstrained discussions about the range of counter-strategies available to them.

I just got a one week ban on Reddit for suggesting that violence is within the range of options in a thread discussing the massive increase in homelessness, including among people who have full time job. Nothing specific, nothing against anyone in particular, nothing that technically violates the stated terms regarding violence, and certainly less than the numerous, heavily upvoted comments that explicitly and unequivocally call for violence against specific people that I read on a regular basis.

If a revolution is ever to be mounted, I think it might have to be done with paper and walkie talkies. Meanwhile, those on the corporate-government merger side not only can communicate and coordinate freely, they also have access to the communications of their enemies.

Oh, what a time to be alive.

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Post by behnamoh »

smoldesu wrote: post #331
m463 wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one of those puzzling things to me. You own your life - why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better? Who cares? I worked at a job where I had a small, crappy monitor. I made decent cash. I just bought a large decent monitor and brought it into work. I ended up using it for many years. My life was significantly better. I've done that at several jobs since then, and NEVER regr…

> why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better? Objectively, a few reasons: - You can't afford it. - Paying for it doesn't let you "own" anything - It's not reliable - It's legal compatibility is not fully decided yet - It can preclude opportunities for learning and even teach you entirely false things under the guise they are true The list probably goes on, but I don't think we shou…

> - It can preclude opportunities for learning and even teach you entirely false things under the guise they are true

An example? The OP was talking about purchasing a monitor/keyboard/mouse.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by fifafu »

extr wrote: post #107

I've been using ChatGPT pretty consistently during the workday and have found it useful for open ended programming questions, "cleaning up" rough bullet points into a coherent paragraph of text, etc. $20/month useful is questionable though, especially with all the filters. My "in between" solution has been to configure BetterTouchTool (Mac App) with a hotkey for "Transform & Replace Selection with Javascript". This i…

Nice, I'm the developer of BetterTouchTool and I'll definitely use this one myself :-)

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by qup »

drusepth wrote: post #229
qup wrote: post #194

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This is totally an aside, and I'm not calling you out, but I think it's an interesting topic: > I've written probably 60k+ words over the years using it Is this how you view it? You wrote the words? I personally would kinda view your role as a creative director and curator of gpt completions. I think it's going to be an interesting decade wrt content creation.

Definitely an interesting topic. I actually went and plugged a bunch of my stories/poetry into the new OpenAI human/ai classifier to see what it spit out and it all came back human-written, so at least there's that. :) I see completions as just one more tool in the writer's arsenal, and not something that you can just let run wild on its own. I don't know my ratio of finger-written words vs completed words, but I thi…

> curator of words

Yeah, fair. I like it.

I personally am not hung up on the distinction between AI and human work, including creative. I don't especially care who painted an awesome painting, or wrote an awesome book, unless I'm somehow connected to that human.

The product is the product.

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Post by nickthegreek »

aeontech wrote: post #150
nickthegreek wrote: post #53

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I thought the same when I got midjourney last week for $30/month... and here I am loving it. Wife and I use it all the time. I can see myself picking this one up as well and probably dropping Netflix finally.

I'm really really curious how you use midjourney on a daily basis... I can see playing with it for novelty value, but after that... what? I'm sure it's a failure of imagination on my part, but when you say you might drop Netflix in favor of using the ai generator tools, my interest is piqued! What's your average play session like?

It's largely because I DM d&d. During our game last week, the party bought a carriage and some horses. So I generated art of it on the fly. They then encountered a zombie orc. art on the fly. Then I use it inbetween sessions to generate NPC art. I've been using SD since it launched and they each have the pros and cons. But recently ive been using the midjourney /blend feature to combine diecut sticker like art with npc art to get really cool videogamesque stuff.

I probably spend 1-3hrs a day generating stuff, trying out different models, fine-tuning models, etc. Its especially great to do on the iPad in the evenings while I am watching my shows.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by loteck »

Why isn't the inaccuracy of ChatGPT a more widely discussed topic on HN? Lots of excitement for responses that are often wrong when it counts. Best way I've heard it characterized is that ChatGPT is "dreaming" when providing responses. Yet it seems like users are relying on its responses to varying degrees?

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by vl »

m463 wrote: post #308
ezekg wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You use it consistently during the workday and it's still not worth $20/mo?

This is one of those puzzling things to me. You own your life - why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better? Who cares? I worked at a job where I had a small, crappy monitor. I made decent cash. I just bought a large decent monitor and brought it into work. I ended up using it for many years. My life was significantly better. I've done that at several jobs since then, and NEVER regr…

When I worked at Amazon I brought my own monitor and chair. When I was leaving I put monitor on the chair and rolled it through security and loaded it into my car. Nobody asked a question, I’m still surprised many years later that security seeing somebody removing furniture and equipment from the building just shrugged at it :)
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