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Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by paulcole »

rchaud wrote: post #329
paulcole wrote: post #264

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> If you buy an iPhone you should be able to run whatever app you want on it. I hear this sentiment quite often on HN. Maybe I’m missing something but was this tacked onto the end of those stone tablets that Moses brought down from the mountain? If not, then it seems like people want this to be a statement of fact when the reality is much closer to: > If I buy an iPhone I wish I could run whatever app I want on it.

Don't know about Moses, but here's what iJesus had to say: > The full Safari engine is inside of iPhone. And so, you can write amazing Web 2.0 and Ajax apps that look exactly and behave exactly like apps on the iPhone. And these apps can integrate perfectly with iPhone services. And guess what? There’s no SDK that you need! You’ve got everything you need if you know how to write apps using the most modern web standar…

Yeah it's almost like he changed his mind? I don't know, I'm not too bright.

I'm also not in the habit of crying about what was said 15 years ago and what has clearly changed since then.

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Post by teeray »

supermatt wrote: post #290

Unsurprisingly, the outage hasn't affected twitters own client. Roll on May 2023. Unless twitter want to block the EU, they will have to provide the same level of access to 3rd party clients as they do their own. If the API is down for 3rd parties, but not for twitters own client, that will be considered a breach.

The question is: is blocking the EU a flex that Twitter could successfully achieve? Would there be sufficient backlash against regulators to grant an exemption?

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Post by rchaud »

numpad0 wrote: post #157

Is this potentially retaliatory to negative responses to recent Twitter Blue changes? I saw that Twitter started displaying Blue subscriber tweets in a rather obnoxious way, which resulted in non-subscribers removing and blocking subscribers. I’ve also seen that some users were subscribing Blue expecting their deboosting penalties to clear, only for it to be worsened. That weakly suggests to me that Blue subscriber d…

I don't think that would have any impact on API downtime.

The issue with the new Twitter Blue users is one of adverse selection. Those that are 'verified' pre-takeover usually understand how Twitter works, in terms of how to drive engagement, likes etc.

Those that are new Twitter Blue-verified, are not as experienced, and it's pretty clear from the content of their tweets that they have recently purchased their status.

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Post by heavyset_go »

kmeisthax wrote: post #282
counttheforks wrote: post #227

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Another point to show what Apple's true goal is: To kill general computing. If you buy an iPhone you should be able to run whatever app you want on it. But no, Apple knows best and will not permit you to do anything it doesn't approve of. As for the APIs being copyrightable see Google vs Oracle.

Apple's goal was to kill malware, not general-purpose computing[0] as a whole. Unfortunately it turns out that killing general-purpose computing is an instrumental goal[1] to killing malware: if you want a phone that cannot get a virus then you need someone pre-approving every line of code that hits the processor. Once you have any entity having control over your device, even if it is for your own benefit and you com…

Pretty sure Section 230 of the CDA shields Apple from liability when it comes to what apps users create and share via Apple's App Store platform.

The truth is that the App Store lock-in is about securing Apple's moneyhose, and user "security" is an afterthought.

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Post by heavyset_go »

amelius wrote: post #283
dom96 wrote: post #272

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I’ve done this recently. Essentially created a browser extension that combines Mastodon and Twitter on twitter.com. It works surprisingly well, but I’m guessing catching up with Twitter.com changes is bound to be painful. You can find it here: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mastodon-chirper/l...

> catching up with Twitter.com changes is bound to be painful. Perhaps it should be handled in the same way the YouTubeDL (YT DLP) team handles changes in the html.

I'm not familiar with how they do that, can you expound on it?

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Post by soraminazuki »

fsw wrote: post #280
satvikpendem wrote: post #203

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That is why companies should always stay vigilant about platform risk. In general, own your platform, don't built your business on someone else's platform, it is too easy for them to deplatform you on their whim.

Yeah, just start your own Twitter if you want to build an app for it.

Or you could run your own website. This would also let your viewers browse your website freely without being hindered by a login wall.

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Post by marban »

marban wrote: post #253
rsynnott wrote: post #240

It's worth noting that we've been here before; back in 2012 Twitter attempted to curtail third party clients (albeit in a far more organised, less haphazard way): https://thenextweb.com/news/twitter-4 Eventually, they stepped back from the brink, presumably after realising that it was a phenomenally stupid idea (while the fraction of Twitter users using third party clients is likely small, anyone who's anyone uses a…

I was the creator of Twidroyd (First and biggest Android Twitter app w/ ~70% marketshare) and there was a larger story behind the first big anti-3rd party move. Basically we had some plans to bring users over to a new network after we got acquired by Idealab — and Twitter got wind of it. Think Mastodon 2010 style.

E.g.: https://www.reuters.com/article/idIN341190544020111017 https://allthingsd.com/20111017/bill-gross-new-social-networ...

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Post by marban »

CSSer wrote: post #320
marban wrote: post #253

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I was the creator of Twidroyd (First and biggest Android Twitter app w/ ~70% marketshare) and there was a larger story behind the first big anti-3rd party move. Basically we had some plans to bring users over to a new network after we got acquired by Idealab — and Twitter got wind of it. Think Mastodon 2010 style.

I wrote a paper on you and a couple of other third-party Twitter clients in undergrad on the importance of modern day brand preservation and protection for an integrated marketing class while this was playing out. In a roundabout way, you kind of helped me get an A in that class! :D

Lol, speaking of brand protection, there's even a reason why the app had to be renamed to ...droyd from ...droid.

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Post by SllX »

numpad0 wrote: post #120
SllX wrote: post #80

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Ironically I’m having trouble reading this because I’m on my phone and Twitter URLs go to Tweetbot. So I’m guessing that’s on the list.

Twitter allowing ban evasion and discussions about it had been a real clever move IMO. Users make a lot of noises and calls for exodus, none working, because it always happens inside the very platform.

It was real clever how they revoked the only means I was willing to access their service. Good for them, really sticking to their guns and committing to that “burn it all down and let God sort it out” approach.

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Post by cshokie »

marban wrote: post #338
CSSer wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wrote a paper on you and a couple of other third-party Twitter clients in undergrad on the importance of modern day brand preservation and protection for an integrated marketing class while this was playing out. In a roundabout way, you kind of helped me get an A in that class! :D

Lol, speaking of brand protection, there's even a reason why the app had to be renamed to ...droyd from ...droid.

The word “droid” is trademarked by Lucasfilm
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