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Is Dark Mode Good for Your Eyes? (2020)

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Re: Is Dark Mode Good for Your Eyes? (2020)

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I can attest that if you are a migraineur, these things absolutely make a difference. When mine are borderline or I am recovering, changing the colour and redshift on my monitors can make the difference between being able to do some work and triggering a full blown headache. It's as noticeable as someone turning up the volume on a sound to me.

Whether it matters to all the people all the time is a different question. But it 100% makes a big difference to many people.

Re: Is Dark Mode Good for Your Eyes? (2020)

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That is not true for many displays. Have a look at reviews, whether there is pwm control/flickering is part of all(?) professional reviews now.

Terrific, that is great to know. I might update my monitors if so.

:)

Maybe an aside, but for notebooks, I know that notebookcheck always has a section about this in their reviews. https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Dragonfly-Folio-13-5-G3-con... for example - and even if PWM is detected, they check how high the frequency is (high enough and it should bother no one). For monitors, RTINGs.com checks for PWM, https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/alienware-aw3423... as an example (like imhoguy mentioned, flicker free is the keyword to search for).

Re: Is Dark Mode Good for Your Eyes? (2020)

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> My comment does not mention anecdotal evidence but a person using their eyes to perform an experiment. That is clearly not anecdotal. It is clearly anecdotal [1] at the very least to everyone else that reads your comment. It is also clearly insufficient to draw any scientifically valid conclusions. [1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anecdotal%20evide...

Do you put your hand over fire or you need a study to confirm that fire will burn you?

That a hand over fire will burn you is not a subject of dispute. Everyone who attempts it knows it. That dark mode is better for the eyes very much is a subject of dispute, and many have tried it and disagree it is better.

Do you see a difference?

Re: Is Dark Mode Good for Your Eyes? (2020)

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Can I interest you in some homeopathic remedies or a bottle of snake oil? Maybe prayer? History is full of people who thought/think their bias and anecdotal evidence is good enough.

Those are some very poor comparisons. Maybe if someone is claiming that dark mode or light mode have long-term effects on your health, but what people are actually claiming is just that they find one or the other more comfortable. There’s no meaningful scientific “truth” to that beyond a person’s own stated preference, just like there’s no scientifically most comfortable pair of pants or best color of wall paint. For…

> Those are some very poor comparisons.

Not at all. I know people who tried homeopathic medicine and felt better afterwards, and swear by it. It is very much analogous.

Re: Is Dark Mode Good for Your Eyes? (2020)

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I think the issue is a lot more subtle than simply "dark mode = better" vs "light mode = better". When it's dark around me, I don't want a bright white screen blinding me, so I prefer dark mode. But when I'm in a well-light room with a white wall behind my screen, I don't want to have to peer at a dark rectangle. Also, whether you're using dark or light mode, contrast and brightness need to be set right, and I think…

I think the issue is that people are adjusting what they see on screen instead of adjusting their environment (i.e. room lighting), even when they are totally able to do it. A dark mode could make it bearable to work in poor light conditions but won't improve on the fact that it's already a non-optimal environment.

Or adjusting the brightness of their screen.

Re: Is Dark Mode Good for Your Eyes? (2020)

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Yes this is also because these days monitor engineers optimize for peak brightness and totally neglect minimum brightness specs. Because 600 nits looks great on a spec sheet and it's just difficult to regulate (backlight) LEDs over a huge brightness range without affecting color accuracy or causing excessive flickering. Nobody looks at the minimum spec if it's even provided. So what they tend to do is to have the low…

>Yes this is also because these days monitor engineers optimize for peak brightness and totally neglect minimum brightness specs. You can get a proper full range of brightness by using a radiology reading monitor. It's going to run you well into the four figures, though.

Do you have any experience using radiology monitors for reading? I nearly pulled the trigger on one earlier this year, but I couldn't find a greyscale one that supported a D50 white point. (Apparently traditional light boxes use white points as high as 11000K.)

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This one has pretty decent brightness and comes with great blacks too. And the widescreen format is great for development. The 34" is basically an extended 27", whereas the 38" is an extended 32" https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/alienware-34-curved-qd-oled-...

Alienware QD-OLEDs have a special pixel layout which isn't good for text

It’s probably not as much of a problem on macOS and Linux where the majority of apps will obey system text rendering settings (and macOS defaults to non-subpixel AA anyway) but under Windows everybody does their own thing for text rendering regardless of how you’ve set up ClearType and it’s a mess.

Re: Is Dark Mode Good for Your Eyes? (2020)

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I have trouble reading dark screen mode. Maybe because I am old? When I pair program or someone is screen sharing on zoom, I need to ask for the other person to switch modes. That said, dark themes look cool.

Counter point - as I've gotten older, I find dark mode much easier on the eyes. But it depends on the time of day, and how much lighting is actually available.
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