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Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by ezplorer »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #217
sixtyfourbits wrote: post #48

Fortunately someone had the foresight to make a backup: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32972923 Z-library were in it for commercial gain (you could access a certain number of books but to get more you had to pay for a subscription). They started out as a fork of library genesis, whose mission has always been strictly non-commercial and about providing free access to everyone without limits. Hopefully this will…

I'm not so sure there was commercial intent. Their policy was basically around discouraging datahoarders and scrapers as far as I could tell. If I recall correctly, the limit was something like 10 e-books per day per ip address. Not really a huge limit when you consider that there was no limit on file size for things like graphic novels. They never required accounts, and the only thing locked behind a required donati…

You're right. I don't know why there's people repeating that "they have commercial intent" when it's actually not true. That's unfair, ZLib is a really good web

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Post by Emma_Goldman »

runjake wrote: post #169

z-lib.org is responsible for me buying more books in the past couple years than I’ve ever bought. It essentially acted like an in-person bookstore for me that allowed me to browse a book to determine whether it was worth buying. Before z-lib, I generally tended toward avoiding wasting money. I guess I’m back to that again. (I like paper copies of tech books and Kindle copies of novels so I can sync reading and highli…

Exactly. The idea that there is a zero-sum trade-off between pirated books and for-profit books is nonsense. I look through hundreds of books every year - often just skimming the introduction, or most relevant chapter - and if I like them enough, I'll take them out from the library or buy them. I buy more books because of libgen and z-lib, not less.

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Post by rendaw »

lxgr wrote: post #114
wlesieutre wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kobo doesn’t force books to use DRM, for example: https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-way-of-kings-1 Tor Publishing Group Release Date: August 31, 2010 Imprint: Tor Books ISBN: 9781429992800 Language: English Download options: EPUB 3 (DRM-Free) But if you’re only browsing the books that choose not to use it, it’s certainly a smaller selection

Not even Amazon forces publishers to use it! There are DRM-free Kindle books available. Unfortunately, I don't know of a way to explicitly search for DRM-free titles, but the description for these usually has a sentence like "made available DRM-free at the publisher's request", or is lacking the reference to "use limited to x devices simultaneously".

Comixology as part of their Amazon acquisition just got rid of their old DRM-free offerings: https://twitter.com/comixology/status/1492222215139459072

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by __jambo »

pilimi_anna wrote: post #103
sixtyfourbits wrote: post #48

Fortunately someone had the foresight to make a backup: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32972923 Z-library were in it for commercial gain (you could access a certain number of books but to get more you had to pay for a subscription). They started out as a fork of library genesis, whose mission has always been strictly non-commercial and about providing free access to everyone without limits. Hopefully this will…

Holy shit! Did not see this coming, but glad we saved this collection just in time. (I'm Anna, the one who made the backup). We are working on hosting this collection, as well as saving other large collections. Please consider supporting us, donation details at http://pilimi.org (we'll set up a patreon-like system soon)

thankyou!

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by Emma_Goldman »

czhu12 wrote: post #165

The mental gymnastics happening in this thread to justify pirating books is pretty disappointing. Especially on HN, where I think a lot of our livelihoods depend on writing and charging for closed source code that can technically be infinitely distributed. How many of us would be happy to open source all our code, provide easy ways for people to download and deploy, and then leave a PayPal link in the footer asking f…

I really disagree. I work in academia in Europe, where we are in the ludicrous position of writing articles and books with public funding, which are gifted to publishing companies who then sell it back to the public at extortionate prices. Articles are just pdfs, and copyrighting them and charging subscriptions only big-budget libraries can afford, is as inane as it is anti-democratic.

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Post by ezplorer »

bawolff wrote: post #160
sixtyfourbits wrote: post #48

Fortunately someone had the foresight to make a backup: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32972923 Z-library were in it for commercial gain (you could access a certain number of books but to get more you had to pay for a subscription). They started out as a fork of library genesis, whose mission has always been strictly non-commercial and about providing free access to everyone without limits. Hopefully this will…

> Z-library were in it for commercial gain (you could access a certain number of books but to get more you had to pay for a subscription). They started out as a fork of library genesis, whose mission has always been strictly non-commercial and about providing free access to everyone without limits. Ick. I'm sympathetic to piracy, but the moment people start to make money off of pirated works it starts to feel much mo…

They were not.

>Z-library were in it for commercial gain (you could access a certain number of books but to get more you had to pay for a subscription)That's a lie mixed with some truth. They have a download limit yes, but one that resets every 24 hours. You can download free 5 books even without an account, and with an account 10 and even more if you used the telegram bot. Like other user mentioned, that policy probaly was to discourage datahoarders and scrapers. And if you donated to the project you recieved the benefit of being able to download more books per day.

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Post by jvdvegt »

OmarAssadi wrote: post #196
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I ask what you pay per kWh? Have you put a power meter on that setup? I've always wanted to do something like this but electricity here is AU$0.27/kWh, and my house is poorly oriented for solar panels unfortunately.

It's a little under $0.12 per kWh here. I haven't gotten around to putting up a meter on it since fully completing it, but in the past, with a bit over half the drives + all of the ram and everything else, it was peaking a bit over 400w -- I'd guess like +- 700ish right now? So, give or take, with a stupid build like mine, here, it's like .7 * 720 * $0.118 = ~$60. Another thing to note is that mine stay spinning inst…

0.772012=6000kWh for a whole year. My household of four uses 4000kWh...

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Post by throwaway74829 »

czhu12 wrote: post #165

The mental gymnastics happening in this thread to justify pirating books is pretty disappointing. Especially on HN, where I think a lot of our livelihoods depend on writing and charging for closed source code that can technically be infinitely distributed. How many of us would be happy to open source all our code, provide easy ways for people to download and deploy, and then leave a PayPal link in the footer asking f…

I don't see why it needs justification.

I want a book; I don't want to pay for it; so I pirate it.

And then I go about my day without ever thinking about it again.

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Post by matwood »

night-rider wrote: post #21
idontwantthis wrote: post #7

Purchased ebooks are like ebooks except you can only read them in Adobe's shitty app, you can't share them with your kids, and you are guaranteed to lose access to them in 10 years or tomorrow. I want to purchase ebooks, but I want to own what I purchase!

> I want to purchase ebooks, but I want to own what I purchase! Without a DRM mechanism it can be easily shared on warez sites. They really don't want books easily disseminated DRM free on warez sites. Alongside this they can track what pages you read and even know how 'fast' you are at reading. Welcome to 1984.

> Without a DRM mechanism it can be easily shared on warez sites.

Every time a publisher mentions this to me, they look surprised when I tell them their books are already easily shared on warez sites. Complex DRM schemes, especially Adobe, limit innovation in reading applications and cause all sorts of end user issues. This in turns pushes people to find sites like zlib in the first place.

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