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Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring

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Re: Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring

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Yet another reason to get an electric car

No catalytic converter theft, no gas gouging, no oil changes. I read things like this and is just makes me hope more people get on board. In the meantime, I’ll be sticking with my Tesla, thanks.

How do you deal with mileage anxiety and going uphill for more than 10 minutes?

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How well did that prevent 9/11? The decrease in domestic terrorism is due to societal changes and better old-fashioned policing of home-grown extremist groups. We didn’t somehow make it impossible (or even difficult) to improvise large explosives.

How well did laws to stop isolated crazy people killing lots of people stop … um … a group of countries investing large amounts of money and years of time into planning and training for the largest single attack on a civilian target in history? I mean sure, you could also ask how laws against shoplifting fail to stop bank robberies, and it would be just as coherent.

largest single attack on a civilian target in history?

Japan would like to have a word with you.

Re: Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring

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As someone who lives in a rural area I and most of those who live in such places around here tend to frown on that sort of thing. We put a high very value on our clean air.

until it’s time to roll coal.

Only the ghetto ones to that. Many rural area people really respect nature.

Re: Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring

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The vast majority of crime is not random, easily punishable, statistically preventable, and if you live in constant low-level fear and vigilance about your possessions, it is because you are being fleeced to benefit a constellation of client classes. You may not be able to do anything about it, but your mind can at least rest easy that it's not incompetence, it is hierarchy, and you are at the bottom.

I am glad they caught this ring, of course, but this is not meaningful crimefighting. The only message it sends is: the pole to the top is a bit greasy.

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Wow. I googled DG Auto, and they even have an app for thieves to check prices. https://dgauto.app/ Really wish the cops would download a list of who installed this app and find their location data on top of a map of reported thefts...

> Really wish the cops would download a list of who installed this app and find their location data on top of a map of reported thefts... Uh... So, I too found the website and couldn't believe how brazen the business is. I too was surprised about the app. If I downloaded the app because I was so surprised, should my name be given to the police as part of this investigation? That's ridiculous.

Sure, why not? It's not like anyone is saying merely installing the app makes you guilty of anything. It's just a lead. Police chase leads all the time and then abandon when they determine the person isn't involved in the crime.

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So they will just start selling those converters abroad. Toothless

Your local cat thief does not have connections overseas. This market only exists because domestic purchasers aren't regulated.

No, but there would probably be some middleman who has connections overseas, and would collect/ship converters for a fee.

Re: Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring

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No catalytic converter theft, no gas gouging, no oil changes. I read things like this and is just makes me hope more people get on board. In the meantime, I’ll be sticking with my Tesla, thanks.

How do you deal with mileage anxiety and going uphill for more than 10 minutes?

Most people only rarely do 200+ miles of driving at a time where that would be an issue.

Re: Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring

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> They should also consider targeting and auditing shops that buy used car parts. Making it extremely difficult to fence these things will be practical and useful because they aren't sold and reused as is California just passed a law to this end, which is pretty straightforward and effectively turns the grey market into a black market. A black market will still exist, but it will be a lot harder for legitimate junkya…

> It basically mandates KYC (Know Your Customer) procedures for companies that buy or sell catalytic converters, and it makes buying or selling a catalytic converter without documentation that it was obtained legally a crime. This is worse than the original problem. When did we become so comfortable with the government mandating presentation of papers and tracking of private transactions? Effective, privacy-preservin…

Let's up the ante and see where you stand.

In Britain, criminals were stealing the thick, copper cables used for power and signaling of the railway. They wrapped a chain around cables near a road crossing, attached it to a truck, and dragged a significant length of cable away, to sell as scrap.

That naturally means the railway can't be used for many hours, occasionally over a day, and costs a tremendous about to repair. (It is one of the most safety-critical large systems around.) There's huge disruption, as 600 people per train every 20 minutes simply don't fit on any other means of transport.

Compared to catalytic converters, the disruption to society is far greater, the replacement cost much higher, and the scrap value relatively lower.

About 10 years ago, a law was introduced forbidding scrap metal dealers from paying cash, and requiring them to check ID. That led to a 30% drop in theft.

Is that a reasonable law?

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I'd expect the charging cables to be the easy target then. EV owners, please correct me if I'm wrong but I can't imagine that the charging port would be able resist a cordless drill for more then 4 or 5 seconds. And from what I've seen of the CCS connectors, Home Depot probably carries big drill bits long enough drill into into and completely destroy the locking mechanism. Drill in, destroy the the charging port on t…

This is already a thing in terms of Tesla superchargers being sawed off to be sold for scrap. Copper is pretty valuable. https://electrek.co/2022/02/07/tesla-supercharger-cables-sto...

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