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Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Mastodon. https://joinmastodon.org/ But people go where people are, so we’ll see if it gets traction.

People are definitely going there. Like, people who have hundreds of thousands of followers on Twitter. William Gibson, Leo Laporte, Jordan Mechner, Martin Fowler, just to name a few I noticed having recently joined up.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Mastodon. https://joinmastodon.org/ But people go where people are, so we’ll see if it gets traction.

I find it difficult to get my head around mastodon and federated messaging in general. It seems like a lot of effort to go to when all I want is a social messaging app. I want to make an account once and be able to message anyone else on whatever app I'm using, not have to worry about whether my chosen node happens to be connected to theirs, not to mention that something like this [0] can happen and then apparently y…

Mastodon prompts (forces?) you think differently about what it means to be social on the internet. Do you want to have every message you write broadcast out to the entire planet? Do you want to receive messages FROM the entire planet? The scope of Twitter is "every single person on the service all in a room". To me, that's nightmarish and stopped being a good model like, 10 years ago.

I think it's about time people in general started to learn about what it means to entrust the entirety of their communication on singular entities that don't have a shred of respect for them, their agency, their rights, or their well-being in any way whatsoever.

My personal belief is the ignorant trust of the tech world is on its way out, without severe legislation to protect the rights of the public. The right to own the data they produce (and prevent it from being held hostage), the right to privacy, the right to agency over what kind of communications and solicitations they are subjected to on the now-essential Internet. Dunno, just my thoughts but I see Mastodon (and similar federated networks) as absolutely crucial examples of the way forward.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Millions have been using the Fediverse for years, I haven't looked back for the past two years myself. It's built on open protocols and it's multi-platform by definition. You can even follow your Twitter accounts from Mastodon. So what exactly are you folks waiting for, and why do I have to keep hearing the "is there an alternative to social network X" question every couple of days? Just jump on any Mastodon instance…

There are three problems with Mastodon: 1) It's hard to get on it, unless you know someone who is running an instance. 2) No-one I know is on it, and can't get on it since they don't know anyone running an instance. 3) The people who are on it all have names like xXxFuchsSturm1488xXx and think I want to see a constant rolling feed of politically-orientated furry pr0n.

Use this[0] to find an instance that has rules/topics you resonate with. No need to subject yourself to mastodon.social.

[0] https://instances.social/

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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None. The power of Twitter is the people there. The huge network effects. If people leave Twitter, they’re not all going to go to the same place. They’ll go to different places or give up on the concept all together. It’s irreplaceable. It’s an artifact of a very different time. I don’t think it can ever be recreated.

Let’s revisit this comment in 5 years.

I wanted to add a note since I see my comment didn’t mention something.

I think Twitter is a dead man walking. Maybe 6 months. Maybe 3 years. I don’t think it will survive.

Wanted to add that clarification.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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None. The power of Twitter is the people there. The huge network effects. If people leave Twitter, they’re not all going to go to the same place. They’ll go to different places or give up on the concept all together. It’s irreplaceable. It’s an artifact of a very different time. I don’t think it can ever be recreated.

Maybe it could be - by something else that already has a large network. Facebook, say, could add a "tweet-like" feature.

But that’s feature. The problem is it’s Facebook. It’s not built/centered around the feature as the core of the platform the way Twitter is.

Something like Mastodon is closer, but I don’t think it will replace twitter for a number of reasons (including the scattering of the Twitter diaspora to the winds as it dies).

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Isn't slashdot the original sin ?

Ah, but /. had meta moderation. Seriously that L2 moderation isn't done anywhere else.

Slashdot never scaled… it was news for nerds.

Reddit downvote and twitter out of context quotes.

HN isn’t much better.

Twitter is for tweets and not replies..

Never read the comments.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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post #200

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I don't like having to choose between commenting on the blog itself or on the social share of the blog post; those two should be integrated. Wouldn’t that be something of quality between usual youtube and facebook comments? If all comments here on HN were from all over the internet, would you even sign up? (If you perceive HN as “social shares” of course).

I think it needs to be in the control of the user. What do you want to see and how do you want to see it? Of course I don't want the pile of shit that the YouTube comment section often is (Google Plus' YT integration was probably their worst idea), but when someone shares a blog post, so I comment on the share and discuss it with my contacts on the social network, or do I comment on the blog itself so the blogger kno…

At that point you basically have Facebook I.e. your wall. What it was before the feed.

It’s a good idea still.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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The way the Internet is built, it's very difficult (maybe impossible) to ever tell if a client app is being operated by a human or a bot. There are various ways to make automation harder, and there are heuristics to guess if the operator might be a bot, but neither are absolute. The best we can build today is an environment that "feels" like everyone is human but where we don't actually know and where that's almost c…

You have a very "positive/optimistic" outlook on how this would go down; My immediate thought was that an implementation of this platform would be using legal identification to prove humans, allowing for one a huge depository of highly-accurate personally identifying information; a security and privacy nightmare in my opinion. This already happens in many places, but those are regulated companies, banks etc, I couldn…

The only thing legal identification proves is that a human created the account. It does not prove that a human is posting or reading/scraping content.

And even then, what does a photo of ID from some foreign country prove? That the person signing up had something that looked like legit ID? Or do we start building a global database of IDs of every human that is "government approved" and somehow not subject to corruption in certain countries?

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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> Millions have been using the Fediverse for years Any evidence for this? Seems like this is something a few hundred or thousand even know about. That's a far cry from hundreds of thousands of millions.

https://the-federation.info/mastodon > Last 6 months users: 2254133 > hundreds of thousands of millions. hmm. 100 (hundreds) 000 (thousands) 000 000 (millions) 100 000 000 000. Earth human population: ~7 billion. 7 000 000 000. I didn't realize Twitter was expanding into the nonhuman market. Or are there more humans outside of Earth that no one told me about? Far cry indeed.

Yes, and we aren't allowed to edit our comments on HN after a certain amount of time. Therefore, cannot fix typos.

Come on, use some common sense.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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https://the-federation.info/mastodon > Last 6 months users: 2254133 > hundreds of thousands of millions. hmm. 100 (hundreds) 000 (thousands) 000 000 (millions) 100 000 000 000. Earth human population: ~7 billion. 7 000 000 000. I didn't realize Twitter was expanding into the nonhuman market. Or are there more humans outside of Earth that no one told me about? Far cry indeed.

The f and r keys are very close to each others.

Thanks. Very much what happened.
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