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Post by mmpdev »

_fat_santa wrote: post #312
cutenewt wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's going to be more in the other direction. He really hates the bots, so he'll probably close up the API. Until bots gets solved, no developer should expect the API to open up.

The problem isn't the bots, the problem is the lack of differentiation between bots and real accounts. I say open up the API and let people make whatever bots they wish, but if you tweet through the API then you get a big "BOT" tag next to your username on the feed.

But not every tweet through the api would be bots right? Like someone using a custom twitter client as a single user shouldn't get that label, no?

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Post by Cupertino95014 »

(I searched the whole thread and it appears no one's mentioned this yet)

* He will move the HQ to Austin. The current SF Tenderloin location is a major turnoff for everyone, including most of the employees, I'd bet. And it certainly can't be cheap.

Most likely the people who refuse to move, he mostly wants to get rid of anyway.

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Post by taternuts »

thinkingemote wrote: post #248

They need to re-free up the API. Early adopters and hackers really did some great work using the API until they walled-gardened it and rate limited it to make it unusable. They need to do this for goodwill at the very least, but I think it will spark the fire to make it popular with techies again. Based on the recently published discovery chats we will probably see: * High def video * Focus on music publication * The…

I loved the free twitter API! So much interesting data to play with, was really sad when they closed it up.

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Post by rootusrootus »

ginger2016 wrote: post #64

Elon Musk wants to set the bird free. But is the bird going to be free? Even free speech people don’t like speech that is critical of their beliefs, the pressure on Elon Musk to widen the definition of hate speech will be significant. The pressure from advertisers will force him to cave. There will be pressure from platform owners like Apple and Google as well. If the moderation is weak Apple could decide to remove t…

> Even free speech people don’t like speech that is critical of their beliefs

Indeed. The fastest I've ever been banned anywhere on the Internet was forums that were ostensibly focused on "free speech." The term seems to be used ironically.

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Post by hnburnsy »

Animats wrote: post #129

OK, so far, not much. Musk is getting stretched rather thin. Space-X seems to be doing OK with Gwynne Shotwell running things. Tesla, which Musk apparently does really run personally, is doing OK, but their side ventures are not. Self-driving is a mess. Solar panels (yes, Tesla has a solar panel business) are not doing well. The Cybertruck is years late. (Maybe next year.[1]) So is the Tesla Model 2, the low-end vehi…

BEVs sold by GM through 2022 Q3...

36 Lyriqs 782 Hummers 22,012 Bolts

For comparison Tesla sold around 32,000 Model S in 2014

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Post by DiggyJohnson »

Kye wrote: post #252
mooreds wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. I think he understands that, as indicated by https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1585619322239561728 That doesn't sound like someone burning Twitter to the ground. Also, many are acting like Musk has free rein in running the company. Yes and no. Beyond needing employees to actually run the thing, he also has loans to pay back ($13B!) and investors to maintain good relationships with. More on that here: https…

Firing the person who fought against government censorship and worked to establish a balanced content policy for almost a quarter billion people across the planet is not a great move if he wants anyone to believe that. The only people who even know who she is either know the good work she does or had it out for her over the reluctant and long-delayed ban of Trump. She just kind of quietly kept Twitter from turning in…

Can you include this one person's name in your comment or reply so that people like me who are unfamiliar can evaluate such a glowing endorsement of "her" "good work."

I know this sounds like a cynical question, but without a name your comment seems a little bit fanatical.

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Post by jcims »

giobox wrote: post #296
cinntaile wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Starlink is a gamechanger, but I guess that's part of SpaceX?

By Musk's own admission, it can never be competitive against the cellular providers - they have the advantage in simple radio/physics terms over satellites. I have some doubts - 4G/5G access is more and more prevalent throughout the US, and it provides better speeds and lower latency for less cost. T-Mobile's latest "home broadband" router that has an integrated 5G modem is surprisingly fast and affordable now, as on…

The metro/urban bias on HN is rarely more prevalent than when the subject is cars or Internet access.

I live on a wooded lot in a reasonably developed area in Ohio. DSL was brought out to my address in ~2004. Today it is limited to 15Mbps down, 768kbps up. 4G has been available since Verizon rolled it out in the area. I have no idea how long ago that was, maybe ten years ago. Today it's good for 25Mbps/2Mbps on a good day, no carrier on bad. I've had Starlink since Feb of 2021. Around November of last year it had become reliable enough that I could use it as my primary Internet access method. The numbers vary, but I would say my average is 140Mbps down and 25Mbps up.

So in my specific case, Starlink is the best Internet access, hands down. It has the lowest latency, it has the highest raw and average performance, and it is the most reliable. It has been this way for approximately a year. So in circumstances where the customer is anywhere outside of a urban/suburban area, Starlink is incredibly competitive and may in fact be the best option available.

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Post by remram »

petilon wrote: post #237
Covzire wrote: post #14

Musk just tweeted this 5 mins ago: "Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with widely diverse viewpoints. No major content decisions or account reinstatements will happen before that council convenes."

That's a very different position than the one he stated before, i.e., everything that is not illegal will be allowed.

This is the official story now: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1585619322239561728

> Dear Twitter Advertisers (...)

> Twitter obviously cannot become a free-for-all hellscape, where anything can be said with no consequences! In addition to adhering to the laws of the land, our platform must be warm and welcoming to all, where you can choose your desired experience according to your preferences

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Post by jliptzin »

NovemberWhiskey wrote: post #273
twblalock wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think many people are cross-shopping Teslas with Bolts or Leafs. The difference in performance and technology is big enough to put them in a different vehicle class. Most of the people I know who are buying Teslas are coming from Audi and BMW, and never would have considered buying a Chevy.

But that's the point. Tesla's market cap is over $700bn. That's more than twice that of all of Porsche, VW (which owns Audi), Mercedes, BMW, Ferrari and Volvo put together. Without selling down into the mass-market and out-competing Chevy in that segment, that price premium cannot be justified.

Tesla’s margins are much higher and they also have no debt
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