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Re: How fateful?

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Post by seba_dos1 » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 8:08 PM UTC

infinitedata wrote: post #315

seba_dos1 wrote: post #19

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> but a big red flag How can you infer that? She clearly had access to his location history, it's extremely unlikely that it happened without his consent. This is rather a vibe of two enthusiastic geeks being genuinely curious about analyzing some cool data about themselves, rather than anyone being "overly attached". We can't tell for sure without more details about their relationship, which isn't our business at al…

How can I infer that? Easily… if she is openly able to do this. What are those things that she is quietly doing? If she already has access to his location, chances are that one night at 7 PM when he hasn’t come back, she is checking for patterns. Funny how everyone is so oblivious and saying ‘ohhh I find it so cute’

What you're saying is pretty disturbing. Sometimes relationships are built on trust.

Re: How fateful?

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Post by salmo » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 10:53 PM UTC

Dracophoenix wrote: post #262

salmo wrote: post #218

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The 1 in 100 is what keeps my wife busy with family law. The odds of ending up marrying someone vs having a healthy relationship are 2 very different things. My wife and I dated through undergrad, broke up at "get married or break up." And ended coming back together as adults with more life and relationship experience. Based on plans, we never should have been back in the same city. And when we started hanging out ag…

I'm guessing your wife is a divorce attorney? If so, knowing what she knows, what's stopping her dropping out of the marriage and taking half your stuff? Even in a perfect marriage, there's always the incentive.

No, she does general practice. That includes family law, but not dedicated.

It would be an equitable portion of our collective stuff, not 1/2 of mine. There is no “yours” when you’re married. That’s a big part of what marriage means. Even pre-modern and across many cultures, marriage has been viewed as a contract.

Money (or lack thereof) is one of the primary motivators in her experience. A lot of “rich people” get divorces when they’re in debt up to their eyeballs and the consequences hit.

We’re not struggling, not wealthy, and are pretty equally valued. Also, there’s more than stuff. The burden of children, a household, and even our own lives would be much greater solo. We’re a pretty great support system for each other.

There is no perfect marriage. Part of my point. I think mine’s great. We’ll see when we’re dead or divorced.

Re: How fateful?

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Post by qu4z-2 » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 11:27 PM UTC

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #212

victornomad wrote: post #54

Many years ago, when everybody had Nokias with the Bluetooth on, I used to do a similar thing. I created a S60 python script that kept scanning Bluetooth mac addresses and link them with the cell tower I was connected to (no GPS yet on mobiles).Then later processed the logs to see if I encountered the same people in different locations and times. And yes, I re-encountered a bunch of Bluetooth mac addresses in differe…

I believe the Nintendo (3)DS does something similar, but makes it into a gameplay mechanic in supported games, SpotPass and StreetPass: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpotPass_and_StreetPass > Using the console's background connectivity, a Nintendo 3DS in Sleep Mode can automatically discover other Nintendo 3DS systems within range, establish a connection, and exchange content for mutually played games, all transparen…

There's also a handful of free games that come with the console, so you're not limited to people who own the same games.

There was a puzzle one where you got a random starting piece, and you could copy one piece from each person you passed that they owned. Sometimes you'd go past someone with the entire puzzle, sometimes you'd already have all the pieces someone else did (which is kind of fun in its own right).

I miss that there's nothing like that on Switch, but it was not great for the battery life.

(actually, on the original DS there was a game called The World Ends With You that implemented this feature at the game level, too. OS-level is a big improvement, but it was still neat there, especially since it gave you a bonus even for passing DSes that didn't hvae the game running)

Re: How fateful?

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Post by stevage » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 4:05 AM UTC

bradlys wrote: post #278

throwaway2037 wrote: post #275

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You wrote: > First, do you have any sources? Most (Western culture) highly-educated women that I know use online dating apps. Second, as I understand, a major issue about dating with highly-educated people: Women (almost) always want to meet same socio-economic status or above . Dear HN readers: Read that last sentence mathematically: Greater than or equal (>=)! As women are quickly holding more than 50% of highly ed…

If you have the time to write this all out - you have the time to find the supporting statistics. Most women don't use online dating - they've tried it but they don't use it. This is why the apps are overwhelmingly male. (Anywhere from 2:1 (lowest I've ever seen) to 9:1 depending on region and app) High income women end up marrying their college partners. A lot of these gals meet their partner in college and never se…

Anecdotally, most women use online dating occasionally, but hate it. They go without for a few months then reluctantly dip back in briefly.

Re: How fateful?

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Post by infinitedata » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 7:17 AM UTC

seba_dos1 wrote: post #331

infinitedata wrote: post #315

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How can I infer that? Easily… if she is openly able to do this. What are those things that she is quietly doing? If she already has access to his location, chances are that one night at 7 PM when he hasn’t come back, she is checking for patterns. Funny how everyone is so oblivious and saying ‘ohhh I find it so cute’

What you're saying is pretty disturbing. Sometimes relationships are built on trust.

I agree, sometimes. But doing a full data-science analysis of where me and my partner where for the past 7-8 years to see how close we where, even though we are already together, doesn’t sound promising either.

Nevertheless, I think in general, people should learn that some will agree and others will disagree. There is no wrong or right. If some of you find this ‘cute’ and ‘amazing’ that is perfect. You should also understand and respect that some others find this ‘creepy’, ‘disturbing’ and a big ‘red flag’ for insecurity and annoying attachment.

Re: How fateful?

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Post by infinitedata » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 7:21 AM UTC

quenix wrote: post #18

infinitedata wrote: post #8

These are amazing ETL skills, but a big red flag, I thought I was watching the revival of the infamous Overly Attached Girlfriend. As someone said there, this is great and scary at the same time. Also, how come 2 people be so ok with Google having all their location history? There are only two reasons why someone leaves that function enabled: A) they are Google employees B) totally ignorant to the fact that Google tr…

> I thought I was watching the revival of the infamous Overly Attached Girlfriend What? Why? Both parties seemed happy with it and it seems like a cute thought experiment to me.

How do you know if Dan was totally okay with this? We don’t know.

Also, I respect that you find it ‘cute’. To me this is ‘insecurity’, ‘attachment’ and an indication of a current or future toxic relationship.

There is no wrong or right, people should know that others out there will have a different POV.

Re: How fateful?

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Post by FearNotDaniel » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 10:43 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #66

When my wife and I combined our photo libraries later in life, we found a photo of the two of us, back-to-back at a ball a few years before we first met.

Similar, but also with Google's help: on the second date with my current girlfriend, we took a selfie. Google Photos then identified her face from a picture I had snapped five years previously... it turned out we had already met at a wedding, had a somewhat tipsy and flirtatious conversation, but since we then lived a long distance apart, and I was still disentangling myself from a previous relationship, I didn't make an attempt to follow up at the time, just left with a vague memory of "cute girl in city X, it would have been nice to get to know her under different circumstances." Now I live in city X and the circumstances are so much better :)

Re: How fateful?

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Post by FearNotDaniel » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 10:48 AM UTC

netsharc wrote: post #286

breck wrote: post #189

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Aww so sweet. I love stories like this. My wife and I met by chance in Seattle in 2014, having grown up on different coasts, but there was a period in the 1980's where we lived <50 miles apart and I always wonder whether we ever met by chance as kids. That's so amazing you found that photo. We will have to combine photo albums like you and see what we learn.

There's a reddit comment where the poster recalled, how his parents would take the family on far away cities for vacation. The parents would then do parent things and the kids would just walk around the cities. In several different cities in several different vacations, he and and his sister would run into this kid. After a few times, the kid would run being freaked out, but the poster and his sister managed to "catc…

> The parents would then do parent things and the kids would just walk around the cities

Apart from the final plot twist, this was surprisingly normal when I was a kid in the 1970s. The number of times my sister and I were left sitting outside a pub, either at a picnic table or even waiting in the car while the adults were inside having fun...

Re: How fateful?

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Post by edumucelli » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 1:43 PM UTC

That is great, a big chunk of my Ph.D thesis was about evaluation people's mobility and identifying the routine behavior in our mobility. It is crazy!

Re: How fateful?

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Post by Tozen » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 8:05 PM UTC

jffry wrote: post #302

elzbardico wrote: post #118

Plot Twist: When google's algorithms decided those two individuals should pair, it started showing them ads for the same events in order to increase the probability of them meeting. The goal was achieved by the system in 3 months, exactly as predicted with a 99% probability with a 95% CI. The system's next goal is to subtly nudge the couple to reproduce within the next year in order to help google meet their user acc…

Tangentially: I've read a sci-fi short story in some anthology in the past 10ish years, from the perspective of an AI that gains sentience, hides its existence, but uses its powers for good to nudge people in better directions. Things like timing when push notifications arrive on their phones or what gets highlighted in their newsfeeds - small interventions in their digital lives. I have no idea the name of the story…

Unfortunately, the real life version is likely to be a corrupt hidden group or organization who have placed themselves above or are circumventing the law, that uses AI and their power to do damage to the lives of others.