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It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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Post by oynqr »

Kiro wrote: post #278
orsond wrote: post #88

Hi, orsond from the fifth column here. The Fifth Column is a Minecraft hacking and griefing group. We created Project Copenhiemer which is a Minecraft server scanning tool. Copenhiemer scans the internet every 20 minutes for minecraft servers, logs players, server versions, mods and more. Originally we had created it to find players and grief their server worlds, highlighting how much information about players is lea…

The absolute worst people in the gaming scene (griefers) complaining about this must mean it's a good thing. Why do you enjoy ruining people's servers?

Have you never destroyed a sand castle? Toppled a Jenga tower? Destruction is fun.

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Post by soco »

the_cramer wrote: post #266
hooby wrote: post #242

Microsoft lost my copy of the game during the account transfer. Despite me having an account, that had both re-downloaded the game and played it just a few weeks earlier, had a custom character skin stored in it, and other stuff - they claimed I didn't actually ever own Minecraft, and demanded I provide proof of purchase. I provided as much as I could - including security questions+answers (which I had stored in my K…

-> Basically I was considered guilty unless I could proof my innocence imho this is not comparable. You are considered unknown (account-wise) until you can prove that you are known. That's how a login system works. Now why Microsoft didn't see your account, didn't accept your "proof" and left you in the rain, that's another story. A bad one. Big tech should care about the small man, they are their income after all. G…

Uh, no. They have the account, which wasn't even under debate - they are missing the copy of the game. And no login system works by asking you the registration mail, ever.

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Post by danuker »

ajvs wrote: post #313
kragen wrote: post #41

Minetest is probably the best Minecraft alternative; it's free and open source software, which avoids the danger associated with centralized retaliation systems like the one Microsoft is operating. Also, it's easier to write mods for, partly because mods are written in Lua, and you don't have to install mods on the client, just the server. https://www.minetest.net/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Fyav6FiIs The vide…

I prefer open-source Veloren instead since it's built in Rust, has far better performance and functionality, and has a more RPG-like focus similar to Cube World. https://veloren.net/

I tried Veloren and it's definitely more requirement-heavy than Minetest.

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ckemere wrote: post #94

It's apparently a minority voice opinion here on HN, but I for one appreciate what Microsoft is trying to do. As a parent of a 6 and 9 year old who have really gotten into Minecraft during COVID, I appreciate them basically deciding "We want Minecraft to be a game for kids and an online community that is nice." I get why people are frustrated, but I also like the idea of a global decision that forces servers open to…

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hooby wrote: post #242

Microsoft lost my copy of the game during the account transfer. Despite me having an account, that had both re-downloaded the game and played it just a few weeks earlier, had a custom character skin stored in it, and other stuff - they claimed I didn't actually ever own Minecraft, and demanded I provide proof of purchase. I provided as much as I could - including security questions+answers (which I had stored in my K…

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[deleted] wrote: post #334
ckemere wrote: post #94

It's apparently a minority voice opinion here on HN, but I for one appreciate what Microsoft is trying to do. As a parent of a 6 and 9 year old who have really gotten into Minecraft during COVID, I appreciate them basically deciding "We want Minecraft to be a game for kids and an online community that is nice." I get why people are frustrated, but I also like the idea of a global decision that forces servers open to…

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Post by SSLy »

parasti wrote: post #212

Seeing how my wooden signs and item names containing perfectly safe Latvian words have been brutally disappeared and censored in Minecraft Bedrock, this seems like global disaster about to happen. In my experience, Microsoft is incompetent to correctly enforce this.

You shouldn't be surprised considering the amount of racism in USA.

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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Post by MereInterest »

codeyperson wrote: post #146
sidewndr46 wrote: post #122

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Wow, this is the most entitled attitude I've seen in a long time. You let your kids play online, where they can communicate with basically anyone. So the solution is to grant a central authority total power to ban anyone who doesn't comply with the standards you want for your children. This is the online equivalent of a homophobe complaining that two men holding hands in the park will turn their children gay.

Bit of a wild comparison. It's more like the online equivalent of someone getting kicked out of Legoland for swearing around the children.

Nope, not at all, because it applies to privately run servers. It's the equivalent of breaking into my house and stealing my Legos, based on somebody's statement that I swore around children who happened to be near Legos.

I bought Minecraft in 2011. Every few years since then, I would get friends back together, host a new server, and catch up while playing. I bought the software, I host the server, I ban people if need be, and how dare Microsoft treat it as their walled garden.

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Post by ArnoVW »

EMIRELADERO wrote: post #148
caslon wrote: post #135

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Minecraft is transparently not a good. You get a license to it, you don't own it. You don't buy the copy, you buy the license to the copy. You go to the video store, you get a VHS tape. You don't own the media on the tape. You can use the tape. That is the deal for proprietary software. That's what you agreed to with your purchase. You consented to the model. You agreed to the terms of the license. There's nothing mi…

You should check out Andino v. Apple , an ongoing lawsuit in which the plaintiff alledges that the use of the "Buy" button is fraudulent if content is truly not bought. I feel like you are confusing copyright law with contract law. I can purchase Minecraft without agreeing to any EULA. It only appears after you download the launcher. Here are the two types of unconscionability: The basic test applied for unconscionab…

I-am-not-a-lawyer (nor a judge for that matter), but it seems to me that that line of reasoning can be shut down extremely easily.

You're buying a licence. So the "buy" button is not fraudulent.

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