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Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by politician »

azekai wrote: post #186
politician wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a fair observation. I'm curious though, do you have any ideas to improve the situation? What would you do if you were responsible for 1.5B people and were facing a situation where the labor force participation drops by half over the next ten years and continues to drop every year since? Will you be able to arrange for the population to be able to be fed, clothed, housed, and given medical care? It's not possib…

The CCP isn't 'responsible' for the people under its boot. It is their lack of responsibility for the people of China that has led to this problem. You act like the socio-demographic situation is not the direct outcome of the policies pursued by the CPP regime. "Will you be able to arrange for the population to be able to be fed, clothed, housed, and given medical care?" The government of China does not do any of the…

So, is your answer to let them starve? I'm trying to understand if you are answering my question or attempting to dodge by discussing something else.

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Post by koheripbal »

ginger2016 wrote: post #310
sudhirj wrote: post #58

We have this kind of censorship in India as well, even the in weirdly innocous places. In James Bond movies, and I think Gone Girl as well, scenes were by zooming into character's faces or just straight cuts. This is probably the only reason I maintain a US iTunes accounts (used to have to buy gift cards from sketchy sites online to keep this going, but I recently discovered that my Indian Amex card works fine with a…

Given the racist protrayal of Indian American Raj Kuthrapalli, I am of the opinion Indians are magnanimous in allowing this show to be aired there.

It's a bit like Jewish, Irish, Japanese, Korean, or Italian stereotypes in movies/tv - few real members of those groups get offended because we're not currently disadvantaged.

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Post by politician »

notsapiensatall wrote: post #272
politician wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a fair observation. I'm curious though, do you have any ideas to improve the situation? What would you do if you were responsible for 1.5B people and were facing a situation where the labor force participation drops by half over the next ten years and continues to drop every year since? Will you be able to arrange for the population to be able to be fed, clothed, housed, and given medical care? It's not possib…

Well for starters, you don't limit each family to a single child.

Too late for that, they already raised the limit to 3, but it won't help in time for the demographic collapse.

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Post by wizofaus »

wizofaus wrote: post #234
alldayeveryday wrote: post #216

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> Because why else would such an aversion arise? > I don't think there are any sensible "defaults" for human cultures. But, you seem to think a lack of aversion to talking about sex to be a default? To your question, I've known many people whom are not practicing any religion and yet have an aversion to sexual discussion, within a population that has a lack thereof. There are many such topics that some feel are not k…

> Let's say in China there is a general aversion to sexual discussion. What will be your explanation given lack of puritanical religion? I genuinely don't know, that's why I asked. Presumably it's served some sort of purpose at some point. Or maybe, as another poster suggested, it was an trait borrowed from other cultures where puritanical religion did have an influence.

If I did have to put forward a hypothesis it's that men in power are insecure about their sexual abilities and have been worried about discussion of their exploits under the covers undercutting their status! Seems just as plausible as alternative suggestions put forth.

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Post by ginger2016 »

clouddrover wrote: post #322
ginger2016 wrote: post #310

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Given the racist protrayal of Indian American Raj Kuthrapalli, I am of the opinion Indians are magnanimous in allowing this show to be aired there.

What in particular is racist about it?

If you have watched the show and failed see why it is racist, then we need to give some anti-racist education.

It is affirming the stereotype Indian males lack confidence with women. Raj can’t speak with women without the use of alcohol, the show constantly mocks his accent, worshipping of cows etc.

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Post by the_af »

coryfklein wrote: post #300
joe_the_user wrote: post #171

It's worth noting that American censorship in, say, 1960, was at close to the same level. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_censorship_in_the_United_...

Did the article imply somewhere that China is unique in it's censorship? I personally tire of this pattern: 1. Article submitted to an international forum about X country doing Y bad thing 2. "Well the USA is just as bad, they also did/doing/will do Y bad thing" Well yes, that is true, but people are voting up the submission because they found that X-doing-Y-today was interesting and don't care to rehash the history…

> Did the article imply somewhere that China is unique in it's censorship?

I don't think it implies that, but to be honest, the general implication here on HN is that China is the current Big Bad and everything they do is uniquely bad. It's not spelled out, exactly, but that's how I read many comments here.

It may be just me, but that' s the vibe I get from HN in relation to China.

> But the regularity with which this pattern repeats feels so much like state sponsored astroturfing I'm just tired of it.

I think this is unfair. I also don't think you truly think people asking about US behavior here are Chinese agents. That's just silly. China hasn't infiltrated HN.

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Post by Tao3300 »

sltkr wrote: post #57
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #2

It's really interesting that such a bland, un-subversive show whose only mentions of sensitive topics are in bad throwaway jokes is so heavily censored. I guess a more interesting show would just not get aired at all.

Personally I'm mostly offended how stale and unoriginal a lot of these jokes are, but I can definitely see why the censors took offense at some of them. For example, the joke about the Chinese restaurant ("I'd be more concerned about what they're passing off as chicken") plays off of the stereotype that Chinese people eat dogs and cats, and the “passing off” remark implies that the Chinese restaurant owners are decep…

For the most part, jokes are only offensive if they strike a nerve.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-walmart-china/wal-mart-re...

> Wal-Mart will reimburse customers who bought the tainted “Five Spice” donkey meat and is helping local food and industry agencies in eastern Shandong province investigate its Chinese supplier... The Shandong Food and Drug Administration earlier said the product contained fox meat.

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Post by livinglist »

I’m very glad I was able to move out of this country… China’s censorship got much much worse after Xi Jinping stepped into power. I remember around 2010 when I was in middle school, I was still able to watch YouTube and browse Wikipedia, and ppl were able make criticism on government and incidents without worrying too much about their own safety. Right now China is filled with misled and brainwashed ppl that believe in everything said and done by the government.…

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by mr_toad »

koheripbal wrote: post #332
ginger2016 wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the racist protrayal of Indian American Raj Kuthrapalli, I am of the opinion Indians are magnanimous in allowing this show to be aired there.

It's a bit like Jewish, Irish, Japanese, Korean, or Italian stereotypes in movies/tv - few real members of those groups get offended because we're not currently disadvantaged.

The whole show is a giant stereotype.

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Post by the_af »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #102
jedberg wrote: post #86

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> I dare you to show that scene at a liberal college and notice how few laughs you get. Did you see the recent video where the white guy dressed up in a poncho, big hat, and fake mustache and carried around maracas? He asked a bunch of white kids on a college campus if they thought his outfit was offensive to Mexicans, and they all said yes. Then he went to the Mexican part of town and asked actual Mexicans, and they…

Who posted that video, and was it unedited? If we're going on a single piece of anecdata, I think it's fair to question if the creator had any biases or was trustworthy. And not all racism / bias is equal. Maybe you are right that Chinese and Chinese-American people would not be offended by this, but it seems completely reasonable that they would be, and the onus on you would be to get data that they wouldn't. It rea…

> edit: it was in fact PragerU (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PragerU) which is intended for entertainment. It should not be considered reliable or unedited.

Isn't PragerU a far right site know for promoting bizarre things? I'd would definitely call it "unreliable".

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