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Post by ystad »

dxbydt wrote: post #26

In the early 1990s when I came here, the prevailing wisdom was that its categorically better to immigrate to the US from India if you get a chance. India was too far back in the tech space, too much bureaucracy, corruption, red-tape etc etc... In the 2020s, the consensus is quite mixed. A lot of people I personally worked with, who successfully got their visas and green cards, have given it all up and gone straight b…

I agree with most, except the quality of my life.

I find my general quality of life to be better. Access to clean air, a great commute, education, a more relaxed lifestyle, better treatment for women in public in the US as compared to India

Of course this is highly contextual, but this my opinion

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wowokay wrote: post #121
amf12 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> their healthcare system is cheap but kills millions every year due to medical negligence. This is a problem money can solve though. If you have the money, you can get pretty good medical care in India. "cheap but kills millions" isn't really a problem faced by most people who have the money to afford it. > The US healthcare system - for all its flaws - has some of the best outcomes provided you have enough money to…

No this is not true, you can’t be denied medical treatment in the US even if you don’t have the ability to pay it.

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Post by outworlder »

tablespoon wrote: post #54
aldebran wrote: post #16

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This is unfortunately still the case. H1B lottery is still a thing. I had to lose a team member and the person saw a similar email in their inbox. Sucks!

> This is unfortunately still the case. H1B lottery is still a thing. I had to lose a team member and the person saw a similar email in their inbox. Sucks! The lottery is still a thing, but I vaguely recall that a few years ago they slapped down some of the foreign outsourcing companies that were abusing the system. I'm I remembering correctly?

They did. Also I believe multiple, concurrent applications are not being allowed.

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Post by outworlder »

didip wrote: post #74
aldebran wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is unfortunately still the case. H1B lottery is still a thing. I had to lose a team member and the person saw a similar email in their inbox. Sucks!

The lottery is still a thing but not for India and China.

You are talking about the diversity visa. It only applies to countries that don't send many people already.

H1B has a global cap, so there's a lottery. It's a completely different thing.

Green Cards also have a cap. China (and India in particular) are screwed. If you are from India and take your 1 year old baby to the US, it's likely – if nothing is done – that your baby will never get a green card. Child dependents lose eligibility at 21 years old; the current projections are pointing to much longer times than that.

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Post by outworlder »

atwood22 wrote: post #209
mywittyname wrote: post #175

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H1B employees cost a lot more to employ than fresh grads. On top of having to pay above average wage, companies have to employ lawyers to handle a lot of paperwork. > most companies don't want to invest in training anyone up anymore The past four companies I've worked for had training programs for new employees and internship programs to funnel college students into jobs after graduation. Maybe bad experience on your…

Do H1Bs really earn above average wage? Haven’t seen that. Overall, H1Bs increase the labor supply, which decreases the price of labor.

In tech? Absolutely.

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Post by outworlder »

sngz wrote: post #178
yosito wrote: post #111

As an American from an immigrant family, I think the US is really losing here. We should be giving visas out liberally to any skilled professional who wants one. Immigration is the only thing that ever truly made the US stand out. On the other hand, as a global citizen with multiple passports who hasn't lived in the US for some time, maybe this is a good thing for the rest of the world. Spreading innovation out a bit…

as another American from an immigrant family. I think getting an H1-B should be easier, not tied to a company, and require companies to pay them more than a citizen. This prevents a lot of the abuse I see right now to people on H1-B's, staying with jobs that they hate, and prevents wage suppression in the industry for others.

I don't particularly care if work visas get harder. Maybe they should.

What should be done is serious scrutiny _before_ someone is admitted. Once they are, the system should get out of their way. A person is working for years at some company, paying their taxes, spotless track record (often not even traffic tickets as they can cause trouble) and yet, they cannot even sponsor for permanent residency themselves. They depend on some company, which has no interest of doing so until the time is close to running out.

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Post by tangjurine »

nxmnxm99 wrote: post #189
jimmaswell wrote: post #162

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Alternate viewpoint, we have more than enough students graduating in Computer Science and other STEM fields, many of whom have a hard time finding a job because most companies don't want to invest in training anyone up anymore, and they're enabled by the H1B program. If we incentivized/forced companies to build people up from basic college graduate again, it would be even better than finding skilled immigrants.

The average H1B is more talented than the average American STEM graduate. That's why they're having trouble getting jobs.

I would agree, from my anecdotal experience.

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Post by Chilko »

diogenescynic wrote: post #192
slt2021 wrote: post #90

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US will lose most nurses and other non-tech, but essential talent

Pay them more if they are so vital then. Or would the business really rather just go out of business instead of raising wages? And if the business can't operate without raising wages, maybe it's not a sustainable business anyways.

Or is it rather that Big Tech and unchecked venture capitalism is inflating wages to unsustainable levels at rate that other industries cannot keep up with? 100 -1000x growth expectations as in in SV is simply not sustainable in the long run, it's kind of obscene. May be a tough pill to swallow though on this forum.

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Post by 2143 »

petilon wrote: post #20
going_ham wrote: post #2

Does it mean it costed the US of potential opportunities? I don't think it made any difference in the US. But it surely helped in his home country. While we are at it, what do you think of current visa issue in the USA? For a long time, I thought it was difficult only to people of Asian countries to migrate to US, but turns out it is equally difficult for any other nations. In the long term, does it make a difference…

> In the long term, does it make a difference in US if it doesn't bring talent across the world? Of course, it does! The only reason the standard of living in the US is higher than anywhere else in the world is because the US makes stuff the rest of the world covets. America is the leading economy in the world today not because it has the most number of people, but because it has the best and the brightest, gathered…

> The only reason the standard of living in the US is higher than anywhere else in the world

That's not true. Places like Sweden, Luxembourg, Switzerland etc have higher standards of living.

US isn't by no means bad when it comes to standard of living, but it definitely isn't "higher than anywhere else in the world".

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