Is this the end of social networking? • Hacker News Board

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by theshrike79 » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 4:55 AM UTC

f1refly wrote: post #46

theshrike79 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people are moving back to anonymous communication with limited audiences. Twitter is anonymous, but 100% public. There is no way to limit your audience to a smaller group. FB is not anonymous and mostly public. Private groups do exist, but you still mostly need to have an actual name on your account. TikTok & Snapchat are mostly for people who show their faces, not anonymous. WhatsApp shows everyone everyone's p…

Both telegram and discord need phone numbers though - telegram upfront and discord after your used it for about ten mimutes.

Telegram uses phone numbers just as UIDs, they're not shared to anyone without your permission.

As for Discord, I've got a few accounts and have been asked for telephone numbers 0 times. It's only needed when a specific server demands it, haven't seen any yet.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by steve76 » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 4:55 AM UTC

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Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by m3nu » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 5:01 AM UTC

Wanted to throw in "Haven" because they offer a timely way out: https://havenweb.org/screenshots.html

It's basically a private timeline, written in Markdown and with optional pictures. Also provides a RSS feed.

Not affiliated, but was in touch with the author this week to help him with his Docker setup and hosting: https://havenweb.org/2022/08/10/pikapods.html

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by lowbloodsugar » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 5:12 AM UTC

>Is this the end of X?

No.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by fithisux » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 5:14 AM UTC

"Now that the pretenders are leaving"

Unpunished? To continue committing their moral (at least) crimes?

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by dizzystar » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 5:19 AM UTC

dont__panic wrote: post #17

> [TikTok]'s addiction-based advertising machine is probably close to the theoretical maximum of how many advertisements one can pour down somebody’s throat. Well put. It's interesting that we pivoted in my adult lifetime from: 1. Myspace's emphasis on sharing things on your own webpage, essentially a hosted blog 2. Facebook's evolution from "hosted blog" to "friend update aggregator" to "chat client" to "friend upda…

I'm curious how you can to this conclusion. Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter were always vehicles for advertisers. I suppose it was more acceptable because it was from "influencer marketing," which was taken so far that the FTC had to step in and start fining influencers for dishonest marketing.

I guess it is different than "we are interrupting your current show for this important topic," but to be honest, I think the new style of marketing is more sinister. We can expect a TV or radio station to show ads and understand it doesn't exactly reflect the thoughts of the stations. In "influencer marketing," we are led to believe that some 16 year old really knows more about the stock market and crypto than those Wall Street guys.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by glenngillen » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 5:20 AM UTC

dont__panic wrote: post #17

> [TikTok]'s addiction-based advertising machine is probably close to the theoretical maximum of how many advertisements one can pour down somebody’s throat. Well put. It's interesting that we pivoted in my adult lifetime from: 1. Myspace's emphasis on sharing things on your own webpage, essentially a hosted blog 2. Facebook's evolution from "hosted blog" to "friend update aggregator" to "chat client" to "friend upda…

This is an interesting perspective and evolution I’d not considered before. And it makes me wonder if the trend of LinkedIn showing ever more personal and less professional content is because it’s the place people have turned to fill the void. It being the main remaining place where people have connections they are least have a somewhat passing personal acquaintance with rather than just a collection of performing strangers.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by randomsearch » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 5:22 AM UTC

dizzystar wrote: post #336

dont__panic wrote: post #17

> [TikTok]'s addiction-based advertising machine is probably close to the theoretical maximum of how many advertisements one can pour down somebody’s throat. Well put. It's interesting that we pivoted in my adult lifetime from: 1. Myspace's emphasis on sharing things on your own webpage, essentially a hosted blog 2. Facebook's evolution from "hosted blog" to "friend update aggregator" to "chat client" to "friend upda…

I'm curious how you can to this conclusion. Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter were always vehicles for advertisers. I suppose it was more acceptable because it was from "influencer marketing," which was taken so far that the FTC had to step in and start fining influencers for dishonest marketing. I guess it is different than "we are interrupting your current show for this important topic," but to be honest, I think th…

That’s odd, I don’t remember there being any advertising at all on those platforms in the early days.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by eyelidlessness » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 5:37 AM UTC

> Facebook’s rollout of a sweeping TikTok-like redesign

Whose rollout of what now? I updated my app to be sure, even though it only showed fixes and perf in the update. I loaded it in my browser and it looks the same as it has since I last looked months ago. Is this overzealous hypothesizing about being A/B tested or something?

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by watwut » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 5:53 AM UTC

kayxspre wrote: post #293

dcow wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I've just stopped using social media because there's no reason to have the type of reach it gives you unless you're, well, advertising (whether that's yourself and/or personal brand, a product, a political position, etc.). However, even though rare, every once in a few years I really do need to reach out to someone I don't regularly talk to digitally or get in touch with someone I was much more connected t…

This is probably the reason I was trying to limit my friend count to the very minimal figure (a little over 100), as I wanted to share my story to those who cared to listen to it. Though since Facebook started to deploy Discovery Engine, I have decided to stop using it (Deactivate the main account, leave Messenger available for contacts). I wanted to be more "connected", not having them scattered.

How is over 100 friends minimal?