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Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by h3daz »

pjerem wrote: post #312

FaceID works great but I miss TouchID for one unique reason : with Touch ID, the Apple Pay UX is pure genius : just take your phone in your pocket with the thumb on the button. Place it on top of the payment terminal. You are done. With Touch ID you have to prepare the phone by unlocking it before making the payment. Which means that you have to stare at your phone while you are interacting with the merchant. It’s od…

I just double-click the right-hand side button in my pocket, then double-check this is the correct card - thus unlocking the phone by me looking at it. Do it everyday without issues

Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by rejor121 »

Apple is missing out by not placing a fingerprint reader on the apple logo on the back of the case. So stupid.

Masks are still a thing, and while I have a 12 mini, it doesn’t open with my masked face (although it’s fine when I’m wearing sunglasses, weirdly enough). The fact that it _can_ open with a masked face makes me question the security of face detection.

I want my fingerprint sensor back. Masks will not be going away ( corona resurgence and potentially a monkey pox pandemic anyone? )

To this end, I think the SE is a great phone, outside of its size. It should be smaller. Hell, the 12 mini could’ve been even smaller but no dice.

I’ll probably not buy another phone until a much smaller one is released. I will even go to Android based phones if one releases in three or four years

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Post by vbezhenar »

rejor121 wrote: post #332

Apple is missing out by not placing a fingerprint reader on the apple logo on the back of the case. So stupid. Masks are still a thing, and while I have a 12 mini, it doesn’t open with my masked face (although it’s fine when I’m wearing sunglasses, weirdly enough). The fact that it _can_ open with a masked face makes me question the security of face detection. I want my fingerprint sensor back. Masks will not be goin…

It’s not like there are plenty of small androids around… It seems that the best phone today is SE (old model with iPhone 4 design). Not sure if it’s still supported or sold, but it should be powerful enough to support calls and sms with enough frame rate.

Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by rejor121 »

MAGZine wrote: post #119
BbzzbB wrote: post #100

Am I cheap, poor, frugal or outdated to find it mildly funny US$400-450+tx are considered cheap phones nowadays? Not that I mind as I'm able to find good value (in my opinion and for my needs) in second-hand markets for electronics (couldn't be more satisfied with my $100 Pixel 3a and aging T430s laptop), I just find it impressive how much price references have shifted over time as flagship phones ran from $400-500 w…

but... your pixel was more than $100 new. the phone you use does not normally fit into the category you describe. the only part that makes it work is the "second hand," bit. cheap/expensive is relative, and $400 is cheap for a phone (for north american audiences). fwiw, i find even pixel phones to be sort of slow after a couple years into software updates, mostly between multitasking/app switching. so I think that th…

We are arguably in a tech golden age where all this cool stuff is cheap now.

Look at video cards. Counting for inflation those things were expensive. Then they got cheap. Now they’re gonna get expensive again ( look at the proposed prices for 4000 series GeForce cards ).

I think we are eventually going to see more expensive phones simply because people won’t really need to buy new ones anymore.

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Post by fanf2 »

I have an iPhone 13 mini and an iPad mini. The iPhone is a handy size but my eyes are ageing so it is not always easy to read. But Face ID is just annoying. The iPad’s combination of Touch ID and USB-C is much more convenient.

Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by baisq »

rejor121 wrote: post #332

Apple is missing out by not placing a fingerprint reader on the apple logo on the back of the case. So stupid. Masks are still a thing, and while I have a 12 mini, it doesn’t open with my masked face (although it’s fine when I’m wearing sunglasses, weirdly enough). The fact that it _can_ open with a masked face makes me question the security of face detection. I want my fingerprint sensor back. Masks will not be goin…

Masks have gone away already. It's time to move on. Monkeypox requires you to wear a mask on your ass, so that won't interfere with FaceID operation.

Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by vizzah »

rpgbr wrote: post #23

I knew I wasn't the only one fond of small, cheap-but-great phones! :) Btw, this is my first post in English. I cover tech here in Brazil for +10 years and run a +9 years old independent, self-sustainable publication written in Portuguese. Now, I decided to give it a shot in another language, despite still feeling uncomfortable with my English. (I hope I haven't misspelled anything!) If you enjoyed this brief iPhone…

Try iPhone 13 mini!

SE would have been my choice if Apple never released this model.

Mini is slightly smaller than SE and it's a crucial factor for me. And it also has more usable screen and where initially I was wary of FaceID - I don't miss the button! :]

I hope Apple continues with SE+mini merged model for the future.

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Post by prodent »

tantalor wrote: post #14

> retained the same design of the 2014’s iPhone 6 Too bad they didn't retain the design of the 2013 iPhone SE, which was better.

The design of the first iPhone SE (which came out it 2016) is that of the iPhone 5 (which came out in 2012).

Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by nebula8804 »

JansjoFromIkea wrote: post #166
nebula8804 wrote: post #117

As someone who held onto the iPhone 5S for years after its EOL and then held onto the iPhone SE first gen for as long as possible (until a cracked screen and second shot battery forced an upgrade) I can confidently say this guy is missing out. I held on to the old phone because of my thinking of the "stability and perfection" of its old design. I avoided the iPhone 6/7/8/SEv2 era like the plague because of just how u…

Switched from iPhone SE 2016 to an iPhone Mini, tbh the loss of touch ID alone was enough to mean it felt like a big quality of life drop. Less so now that I don't have to be wearing a mask so often but still feels significantly worse and I'd happily trade some screen space for it. I suspect a big chunk of why the SE is still around with its current design is a concern of how put off some older users may be from havi…

Its been 5 years since FaceID came out. My bet is on the fact that they need a low cost model in the lineup and they still have the old tooling for the iPhone 8 series so TouchID just happens to be there. Apple is not the type of company that keeps legacy things around if they can help it regardless of how some users might feel.

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Post by centilliard »

mdasen wrote: post #271
centilliard wrote: post #228

The best 'cheap' phone that was ever released in the US was the $499 Google Nexus 6P by Huawei in 2015. It was an octa-core phone that made Apple's dual core iPhone 6s (also released in 2015) look like an overpriced joke. The 6P's aluminum body was lighter and thinner than the iPhone 6s, its camera took much better pictures _by far_ especially in low light conditions (restaurants, evening travel, etc), the iPhone's o…

> It was an octa-core phone that made Apple's dual core iPhone 6s (also released in 2015) look like an overpriced joke The iPhone 6s gets a single-core Geekbench of 528 while the Nexus 6P gets 208. The Nexus 6P's multi-core score was 520 - less then the iPhone 6s' single-core score. The iPhone 6s' multi-core score was 970 - 87% higher than the Nexus 6P. Yep, it had 8 cores. Good for it. It was still a lot slower. htt…

I had expected 8 slower cores to outperform the 2 slightly faster cores in multi-core benchmarks, so the results are somewhat surprising, but I guess Apple's wide pipeline design keeps on giving. Thanks for the benchmark data.

For what it's worth, the statement you quoted did not initially contain the number of cores. 6P felt super snappy (at least on Android 6, not so much on Oreo) and I added the cores for dramatic effect, but that backfired. I'll leave it as-is so others can notice and learn from my mistake once they read your reply.

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