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Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by freediver »

prepend wrote: post #284
freediver wrote: post #258

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Kagi is completely bootstrapped. It has basically 10 developers and me doing everything else. No managers. The expense is low as humanely possible as still coming out of my own pocket.

I admire kagi a lot and will eventually pay you. You don’t have to answer, but how do you have such a high per search price?

It is the cost of commercial APIs that we use. We can't get volume discounts because we dont have volume, not are ever likely to have volume similar to free search engines.

I'd challenge that the cost per search is actually very low. For just 1.25 cents, you can search the entire world wide web with any query, find what you need with no distractions and all that in just 500ms. The value of that search outcome for you can be $10 or even $100. It is probably the most amazing return on investment existing in the world today. Imagine for a second that Google and other search engine didn't exist, and someone offered you this deal today. I'd be you'd take it in a hearbeat. Heck you may even consider paying $1 per search or even $5. So the value is there.

But today this value is anchored in the price of 'free' search. So instead $1 per search sounding like a good deal, we struggle to accept that 1.25 cents is.

We hope that for a portion of people that 1.25 cents per search is going to sound like an amazing deal, especially as this is the only search relationship where the incentives of the information provider are aligned with the incentives of the information consumer.

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by hoorible »

freediver wrote: post #249
jarek83 wrote: post #99

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Just tried the first example search "best laptop" and results are not really very useful - usually old content and none of the results showed the publishing dates of the articles. https://kagi.com/search?q=best+laptop

What are the ideal results for “best laptop”?

This is for sure a really hard question to answer, but I think we can agree that a 2017 blog post does not constitute the “idea results” for this query, no?

FWIW I was a beta tester, and (mostly) enjoyed my experience, but having this as a demo of Kagi’s abilities on your splash page does not inspire confidence in the product IMO.

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by freediver »

hoorible wrote: post #332
freediver wrote: post #249

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What are the ideal results for “best laptop”?

This is for sure a really hard question to answer, but I think we can agree that a 2017 blog post does not constitute the “idea results” for this query, no? FWIW I was a beta tester, and (mostly) enjoyed my experience, but having this as a demo of Kagi’s abilities on your splash page does not inspire confidence in the product IMO.

There are two schools of thought on how to answer this query:

Here is #1 result on Google: https://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/laptops/best...

Here is #1 result on Kagi: https://marco.org/2017/11/14/best-laptop-ever

Kagi's result showcases our philosophy of preferring non-commercial content to commercial/SEO/affiliate content. It may not be for everyone. If the users want that they can find the same link as Google's #1 in a section called listicles.

We show this example on purpose so that we manage expectations on what you will get Kagi from the very first interaction.

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by Night_Thastus »

Vladimof wrote: post #235
Night_Thastus wrote: post #213

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Google Hit Hider (despite the name) works for non-google search engines and is free. Worth a look.

must be an Apple thing, I can't find it

It's not an apple thing. It's a userscript, available on any browser that supports extensions like Tampermonkey or Greasemonkey - so both Chrome and FF.

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #299
account42 wrote: post #48

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Same reason why I still use uMatrix in addition to uBlock even though custom rules in the latter are not any less powerful - user interface matters.

Does that include uMatrix on iOS or Android OS.

This was supposed to be a trick question. I do not think uMatrix is available for a mobile OS.

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by Kuinox »

freediver wrote: post #331
prepend wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I admire kagi a lot and will eventually pay you. You don’t have to answer, but how do you have such a high per search price?

It is the cost of commercial APIs that we use. We can't get volume discounts because we dont have volume, not are ever likely to have volume similar to free search engines. I'd challenge that the cost per search is actually very low. For just 1.25 cents, you can search the entire world wide web with any query, find what you need with no distractions and all that in just 500ms. The value of that search outcome for you…

While I agree that it probably have a lot of value, the issues is human brains.

I don't feel 1 cents per search is a good deal at all, while -logically- it probably will give me more than 1 cent of value out of it. People never thought about how much the knowledge they acquired is worth, most of the time they share it free of charge, people like to share, somes will even pay hosting to share knowledge !

That's why I don't believe in the pay-as-you-go I'm fine with a subscription, I don't pay to have more value out of my search, but because: 1. I dont like ads, I want to support an ad free alternative.

2. I pay for my privacy.

3. Better results will mean less time lost on searching, less frustration.

I never accounted the value I will get out of better search, I looked at the price and felt that I was a bit overpriced for my taste, but I want an ad-free, pro privacy internet.

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by WalterSobchak »

polyrand wrote: post #150

You can do the same with uBlock Origin filters. But writing them manually is hard. I use https://letsblock.it/filters to automatically generate lists of sites for the different search engines. It's been working wonderfully.

This is pretty cool! Thanks for sharing.
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