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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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> "Prime Minister has called the protesters racists and misogynists." > He didn't. This is absurd. https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1488660359422648320... He did. Also said it a bunch of times in person.

Notably parliament refused to universally denounce blackface as well because the Prime Minister had a bit of a scandal.

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Public health “experts” have done very little to quell fearful vaccinated people. In my opinion some of the worst anti-vaxx propaganda comes right from these health departments. If you are vaccinated, you are done with the pandemic. Morally, ethically, and practically. You should be allowed to return to actual, pre-pandemic normal. End of story.

> If you are vaccinated, you are done with the pandemic. Morally, ethically, and practically. You should be allowed to return to actual, pre-pandemic normal. End of story. What if you have children who are not yet eligible for the vaccine?

COVID is at most as dangerous as a normal cold for kids. This is a fact. It’s not even controversial.

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Hacker News used to be about things that mattered to programmers and startups, etc. Now we are turning into yet another Reddit scream box. This type of article does not belong here. The comments keep turning into pointless vitriol.

It's always like this on the weekend.

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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> If you are vaccinated, you are done with the pandemic. Morally, ethically, and practically. You should be allowed to return to actual, pre-pandemic normal. End of story. What if you have children who are not yet eligible for the vaccine?

Children are not any more at risk from covid than the flu (even less, I believe) yet never before did we have these restrictions.

How do you know the long term effects?

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Are you sure you are on the right side of the argument yourself? Suppose next year, the government mandate that you lose weight, or stop smoking or run everyday, all that of course for the "greater good". And then the year after that, it requires that you give pills to your children because that makes them "less indisciplined" and so on and so forth. Stop being so certain and think a little bit. By accepting this man…

This is a classic slippery slope argument. Losing weight is not the same thing as a pandemic like this. The two-fold reason that these measures are taken is A) over-filling of hospitals and shut-down of all non-emergency services and B) extremely high death rate. Smoking or whatever scary slippery slope you think we're on is not the same thing as the ICU's filling up way over capacity and hundreds of thousands of peo…

Ok so what about lockdowns then?

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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The blatant misinformation is this thread is astounding. If you think this is “just a protest”, you don’t live in Ottawa and have no clue what’s going on If you think vaccines are being forced on anyone, you have no clue what’s going on in Canada. If you think GFM planned to “steal” the money, you clearly have no clue that the organizer’s plan called for excess funds to be given to charities. The comments in this thr…

As I understand it, the convoy was sparked by a decree that truckers crossing the US/Canada border would have to either be vaccinated or go into 14 days of quarantine. The latter would effectively take away the livelihood of anyone whose job involved doing that frequently. I don't think it's very useful to argue that taking away someone's livelihood isn't "force", or to argue that people are just "choosing" to lose their livelihood. Sure it's not physical force but it's a pretty extreme level of coercion, and it's perfectly easy to understand both why people in that position would turn to their democratic right to protest, and also why a whole lot of vaccinated and pro-vaccine people would support them.

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The operative word there is "similar."

Yes, similar as in "if we don't do that, insert_whatever_crazy_idea_here, we're gonna overwhelm the hospitals!!!" Because it's been the justification from day 1: "not overwhelm hospitals".

Yeah, that's not how precedent works. Precedent is used to justify the means, not to point out that past actions had the same or similar ends.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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I'm completely unsympathetic (or rather hostile) to the protests, but I find it shocking that there's any legal framework under which Gofundme could shut down the page, seize all of the donations, and force people to basically file paperwork to get them back. There's something deeply asymmetrical in the way we treat white-collar crime as opposed to street crime.

It's bizarre that they even though they could get away with that in such a high-profile situation; I suppose they thought that they could rely on the hostility of people like me to passively take the side of the woke corporation against normal people.

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Most people that use the BLM name and phrase pretty much have never heard of the incorporated BLM organization that lives rent free in conservative's minds. Just something that I've noticed is a bit of a disconnect. People typically are wanting to bring attention into lack of oversight in policing practices, which would benefit all. There is an organization of the same name that has some truly strange and unrelated d…

I think repeatedly chanting the organizations slogan while burning down cities is what established that unfortunate association.

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> Is there any point at which those people with reasonable views who aren’t associated with the BLM organization might .. not chant their slogan repeatedly to establish and reenforce that association?

Doubt it. Onlookers, skeptics, critics and right wing publications have the choice of being just as nuanced and choose not to, in favor of honing in on the mostly ignorable BLM organization. The people with the BLM bumper stickers and BLM posters in their windows are ignoring followers of right wing publications at this point and also aren't paying attention to the BLM organization of the same name.

If you want to know whats happening you have to understand the different way any of this is perceived at all. Its not even opposite, its completely different.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Hacker News used to be about things that mattered to programmers and startups, etc. Now we are turning into yet another Reddit scream box. This type of article does not belong here. The comments keep turning into pointless vitriol.

Yeah I'm done with this website. The state of these comments is an absolute embarrassment, this is purely just a misinformation flamewar
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